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Hi everyone,
So good to see a progressive community of solo adventurers doing so well and having fun in the process.
I found a passion for allowing others to be recognised for what they are worth, in terms of national qualifications, and in helping others find their moment to shine and realise their real potential and their own personal success.
So many people are hard at work, with little time for leisure, and no time at all to get a qualification the traditional way, and thats where I can help. I'm in Sydney but travel all over Oz for work.
I love my clients, and treasure the stories that I get to hear along the way, with all of their triumphs, and those hard learning opportunities as well, and a lot of the stories from this forum resonate with me.
I have a new site, and everything needs doing all at once, but I'm sure it will settle down as all the boxes get ticked off and the To Do list shortens from current 1000 things to a manageable few.  )
For the moment, I am simply here to learn and hopefully contribute along the way. I'm looking forward to interacting in this forum, and meeting some members and perhaps new friends.
Nice to meet you, and thanks for your time in saying Hi !
cheers,
Richard
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seems to be the way things are going these days 'Qualifications by Assessment' and I for one agree with it.
Disliked school, disliked formal structured exams, love qualification by assessment because many people can retain theory for exam by assessment 'if you aint got you dont get it' simple and yet possitive.
there are so many people out there in the work force whao are able to do the job like a professional but they FREEZE in a formal exam and unfortunately often fail.
: Qualifications by Assessment is a fair system.
So welcome Richard nice to see you on here at last
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Hi Burgo,
Good to meet you and thanks for the reply.
Nearly everyone likes an assessment ! They are designed to be rapid, effective and readily available to all, by removing the old roadblocks that are in a formal structure of classes and examinations.
There are many reasons that people go with assessment, and some have to do with time, effort & money, morbid fear of exams, dislike of classrooms, remote locations etc and for others it might be that they want a certain qualification now; they don't have it; and here's a very good way to get it quickly and simply. I like your term, an assessment is ANTIFREEZE for examphobia.
Nice chatting, I'm sure we'll talk more soon.
cheers,
Richard
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Welcome, Richard. I am new to this forum, too.
RPL is a great concept There is nothing worse than repeating your learning just for the sake of it. I am certain that the boredom brings lower marks and it is such a waste of time, money and resources.
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| | Re: Qualifications by assessment, not study. Yes !!! Thanks bbanne,
That's very friendly seeing that you are new as well ! Quote: |
RPL is a great concept There is nothing worse than repeating your learning just for the sake of it. I am certain that the boredom brings lower marks and it is such a waste of time, money and resources.
| I agree. When we do training, we want to learn something new. There is no point training someone who is already competent at what they do. The current common sense approach is "Assess for what they already know, then train for what they need to learn."
I see that you know the term RPL... have you done some personally, or come across in a work related area? It used to be an area of knowledge only for those in the training and assessment industry, but it is now getting out into the wider community, and gaining widespread acceptance.
Thanks for your comments, and your friendly welcome, I appreciate that. Have a lovely day!
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Richard
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I noticed you dont do Asset Maintenance Cleaning Certificates 11, 111 & 1V
The Cleaning industry is a massive industry that employes 11% of the Australian workforce.
The only training body in Sydney that does this is Lennox Institute.
Interested in a Challenge?
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| | Re: Qualifications by assessment, not study. Yes !!! Hi Patrick,
I'm always up for a challenge! I checked out your site, and really liked the realistic approach you take. Quote:
Through asset maintenance certificate 11, 111 and 1V.
However few cleaners want to get involved in training.
| Really, why would they want to get involved with training ? I can understand that. Cleaners are ideal for assessment rather than training. They have obtained all of their training on the job, which is the hardest classroom of all - the school of hard knocks - and would have little time and inclination for a lecture series on the work they do every day. You might know how many are interested in getting an asset maintenance qualification.
I have looked at the Lennox Institute, and like a lot of RTO's, it is impossible to tell whether they do RPL as part of their training program, or even as part of their operations mindset. Do you have a contact there who is progressive about training and assessment? I'm happy to look into it in more detail.
We cover qualifications from the Business Services Training Package but not the Asset Maintenance Training Package, and I would dearly love to cover many more training packages as an assessor, as there are so many competent people who are yet to be qualified. Quote: |
The only training body in Sydney that does this is Lennox Institute. Interested in a Challenge?
| Ever thought about becoming an RTO ?
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Richard
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Hi Richard,
I have a background and quals in training and development. I have also looked at the RPL for another course but gave up because it was too hard to track down supporting evidence for some of my claims. I left it too long and my work mates and managers had moved on. Quote:
Originally Posted by RPL Thanks bbanne,
That's very friendly seeing that you are new as well ! I agree. When we do training, we want to learn something new. There is no point training someone who is already competent at what they do. The current common sense approach is "Assess for what they already know, then train for what they need to learn."
I see that you know the term RPL... have you done some personally, or come across in a work related area? It used to be an area of knowledge only for those in the training and assessment industry, but it is now getting out into the wider community, and gaining widespread acceptance.
Thanks for your comments, and your friendly welcome, I appreciate that. Have a lovely day!
cheers,
Richard | | 
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There you go Burgo - a new avenue to take ICAN down
however will you have time to enjoy your sightseeing with all these ideas to contemplate?
Heidi (in stirring mode hehehe)
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Hi Heidi, ) Quote: |
however will you have time to enjoy your sightseeing with all these ideas to contemplate?
| Being an RTO usually means never going sightseeing ever again !! 
winks,
Richard
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