Big shuffle of Google search results..?

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Penguin Update Peck Your Site By Mistake? Google’s Got A Form For That:
http://searchengineland.com/penguin-update-peck-your-site-by-mistake-googles-got-a-form-for-that-119698

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seocourse, post: 114259 wrote:

Well the ironic part of the whole story is how 1st position in Google for SEO … Australia TOP SEO god… has over 700 domain names registered in different companies, ABNs and hosting.

Hey, just curious, if they using different companies, hosting and ABNs how do you know they are all owned by the same business?

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seocourse, post: 114259 wrote:

Well the ironic part of the whole story is how 1st position in Google for SEO … Australia TOP SEO god… has over 700 domain names registered in different companies, ABNs and hosting.

Hey, just curious, if they using different companies, hosting and ABNs how do you know they are all owned by the same business?

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NickMorris, post: 114387 wrote:

Hey, just curious, if they using different companies, hosting and ABNs how do you know they are all owned by the same business?

The owners are the directors
Just google their names…
All the ABN go to the same post code

Anyway, you do the homework it’s kind of fun when you see how they do it.

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NickMorris, post: 114387 wrote:

Hey, just curious, if they using different companies, hosting and ABNs how do you know they are all owned by the same business?

The owners are the directors
Just google their names…
All the ABN go to the same post code

Anyway, you do the homework it’s kind of fun when you see how they do it.

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Google Penguin update recovery tips & advice:
http://searchengineland.com/penguin-update-recovery-tips-advice-119650?utm_source=fbwallhd&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=wall

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Google Penguin update recovery tips & advice:
http://searchengineland.com/penguin-update-recovery-tips-advice-119650?utm_source=fbwallhd&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=wall

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seocourse, post: 114388 wrote:

The owners are the directors
Just google their names…
All the ABN go to the same post code

Anyway, you do the homework it’s kind of fun when you see how they do it.

Isn’t it a “one ABN per legal entity” rule here in Aus?
Ie a person can have one, a company can have one, a trust can have one. Exception being a partnership can have one even though it aint a legal entity.

So how can they get a separate ABN legally unless the register a company each time? If they do that, would get mighty expensive!

Gab I haven’t done the investigations and i’m sure you are right, but if you are correct they may be doing more than just fooling Google, and land themselves in hot water.

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seocourse, post: 114388 wrote:

The owners are the directors
Just google their names…
All the ABN go to the same post code

Anyway, you do the homework it’s kind of fun when you see how they do it.

Isn’t it a “one ABN per legal entity” rule here in Aus?
Ie a person can have one, a company can have one, a trust can have one. Exception being a partnership can have one even though it aint a legal entity.

So how can they get a separate ABN legally unless the register a company each time? If they do that, would get mighty expensive!

Gab I haven’t done the investigations and i’m sure you are right, but if you are correct they may be doing more than just fooling Google, and land themselves in hot water.

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Whenever G unleashes a “biggie” there has always been a protracted period of fluctuating results. Eg. Panda fixes have been going on for over 12 months now. We have recent Venice updates and that one goes back to Feb 09. I don’t recall a major G algo change that took less than 6 months to bed down and stabilise results.

What I think we are seeing is an unusual situation where many recent changes have been implemented on G country specific search engine algorithms in very short order.

Bear in mind that SERP ranking is a point scoring exercise and if you make significant algo changes and simultaneously add large volumes of documents then apply them to a small country set of data (ie Australia) there have got to be huge consequences that could have been damped down if applied to large datasets (ie USA).

It is a right royal pain but sanity will return to results but then disappear again with the next big one.

Be philosophical – any Aust website that has not been SEO audited in the last 4 months could well be way off the pace.

G keeps us in a job.

Regs,
JohnW

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Whenever G unleashes a “biggie” there has always been a protracted period of fluctuating results. Eg. Panda fixes have been going on for over 12 months now. We have recent Venice updates and that one goes back to Feb 09. I don’t recall a major G algo change that took less than 6 months to bed down and stabilise results.

What I think we are seeing is an unusual situation where many recent changes have been implemented on G country specific search engine algorithms in very short order.

Bear in mind that SERP ranking is a point scoring exercise and if you make significant algo changes and simultaneously add large volumes of documents then apply them to a small country set of data (ie Australia) there have got to be huge consequences that could have been damped down if applied to large datasets (ie USA).

It is a right royal pain but sanity will return to results but then disappear again with the next big one.

Be philosophical – any Aust website that has not been SEO audited in the last 4 months could well be way off the pace.

G keeps us in a job.

Regs,
JohnW

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John, I beg to differ. Not only did the recent Google update cause most havoc on search results and uproar than any other change, how embarrassing that you can’t even rank the official site Viagra for its official name, they are also taking control of Adword campaigns. In the view of many, Google is going “Backwards” not “Forward”.

On a more positive note though, Bing is heading in the right direction. Clean and mean is very user-friendly…

Clutter Free is the only way to go!!! I detest websites with junk scattered all over the place, and I’m confident I’m not the only one either.

Bing and the other SE’s are taking note and listening closely and taking the necessary steps in favour of the end-users, webmasters and Advertisers.

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John, I beg to differ. Not only did the recent Google update cause most havoc on search results and uproar than any other change, how embarrassing that you can’t even rank the official site Viagra for its official name, they are also taking control of Adword campaigns. In the view of many, Google is going “Backwards” not “Forward”.

On a more positive note though, Bing is heading in the right direction. Clean and mean is very user-friendly…

Clutter Free is the only way to go!!! I detest websites with junk scattered all over the place, and I’m confident I’m not the only one either.

Bing and the other SE’s are taking note and listening closely and taking the necessary steps in favour of the end-users, webmasters and Advertisers.

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WAHE, post: 114890 wrote:

John, I beg to differ. Not only did the recent Google update cause most havoc on search results and uproar than any other change, how embarrassing that you can’t even rank the official site Viagra for its official name, they are also taking control of Adword campaigns. In the view of many, Google is going “Backwards” not “Forward”.

Hi WAHE,
I’m not arguing about the current G.com.au results being all over the place but you are making a very big call based on a few examples out of 90 billion searches per month worldwide on Google.

I’ve read the same “G is broken” claim after every major Google upgrade since it started.

A few questions to consider before making a “worst ever” prediction.

1. Are the broken results from G.com or G.com.au?
2. Are the results induced by Universal search function?
3. Are the broken results with Places search?
4. Is anyone in this discussion using a virus riddled Mac?

I don’t recall reading anywhere here whether the broken results relate to G.com or G.com.au. It looks like it is g.com.au. If they are G.com.au or small country G search property related then it is a pimple not a mountain in the world scale of G changes.

At least one of the examples relates to a weird G.com.au Places search result. Nothing new there. G Places has been “broken” and spam ridden since it started.

Very subjectively, it looks to me like G Aust is having teething problems with its integration of Universal search. Outside of those small percentages of search results, I’m not noticing major anomalies.

I gather there is a Mac virus going around that is redirecting Adword results. I have not read up on it myself but could this be the reason for your Adword example? (What would you expect if you buy a computer from a phone company?)

There is no way anyone can prove one upgrade is any worse than any other.

Take the Venice upgrade which started around Feb 09. Until Sep 11, G reported 2.4 mill pages about it. Now there are 35.5 mill pages.

What that says to me is:

1. More people can publish web pages now
2. More people are interested in SEO now
3. There are many more “chicken littles” on the web now.

Here is a short history of G’s major algo changes. http://www.seomoz.org/google-algorithm-change

BTY, here are some matching search results for a few Google upgrade search phrases:

google Penguin “chicken little” = 2.4 mill. pages
google Panda “chicken little” = 2.2 mill.
google Venice “chicken little” = 1.3 mill.
google “big daddy” “chicken little” = 421 k
google jagger “chicken little” = 568 k
google florida “chicken little” = 3.4 mill.

Always enjoy crossing opinions with you.
Best Regs,
JohnW

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WAHE, post: 114890 wrote:

John, I beg to differ. Not only did the recent Google update cause most havoc on search results and uproar than any other change, how embarrassing that you can’t even rank the official site Viagra for its official name, they are also taking control of Adword campaigns. In the view of many, Google is going “Backwards” not “Forward”.

Hi WAHE,
I’m not arguing about the current G.com.au results being all over the place but you are making a very big call based on a few examples out of 90 billion searches per month worldwide on Google.

I’ve read the same “G is broken” claim after every major Google upgrade since it started.

A few questions to consider before making a “worst ever” prediction.

1. Are the broken results from G.com or G.com.au?
2. Are the results induced by Universal search function?
3. Are the broken results with Places search?
4. Is anyone in this discussion using a virus riddled Mac?

I don’t recall reading anywhere here whether the broken results relate to G.com or G.com.au. It looks like it is g.com.au. If they are G.com.au or small country G search property related then it is a pimple not a mountain in the world scale of G changes.

At least one of the examples relates to a weird G.com.au Places search result. Nothing new there. G Places has been “broken” and spam ridden since it started.

Very subjectively, it looks to me like G Aust is having teething problems with its integration of Universal search. Outside of those small percentages of search results, I’m not noticing major anomalies.

I gather there is a Mac virus going around that is redirecting Adword results. I have not read up on it myself but could this be the reason for your Adword example? (What would you expect if you buy a computer from a phone company?)

There is no way anyone can prove one upgrade is any worse than any other.

Take the Venice upgrade which started around Feb 09. Until Sep 11, G reported 2.4 mill pages about it. Now there are 35.5 mill pages.

What that says to me is:

1. More people can publish web pages now
2. More people are interested in SEO now
3. There are many more “chicken littles” on the web now.

Here is a short history of G’s major algo changes. http://www.seomoz.org/google-algorithm-change

BTY, here are some matching search results for a few Google upgrade search phrases:

google Penguin “chicken little” = 2.4 mill. pages
google Panda “chicken little” = 2.2 mill.
google Venice “chicken little” = 1.3 mill.
google “big daddy” “chicken little” = 421 k
google jagger “chicken little” = 568 k
google florida “chicken little” = 3.4 mill.

Always enjoy crossing opinions with you.
Best Regs,
JohnW

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