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    Shade
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    Greetings Room!

    I’ve just started my own little, tiny, fledgling business providing barista services for coffee vans and sites. It came about by accident and I just ran with it (gut feel).

    So far, I’ve managed to navigate business name registration, ABN, intellectual property issues and tax albeit with a view to eventually installing some things (ie trademark application) due to a limited cashflow.

    The only glitch thus far is set amounts versus commission. Many people want to pay me via percentage of takings and this blurs the lines in terms of what it is I actually am. Contracts are another thing….people run from them! haha. These elements are things I’ve not crossed before and is proving to be a learning curve.

    Ah but that’s another story.

    Hello anyway!

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    VacuumRobot.com.au
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    Hi Shade :) Big welcome

    Dave

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    geoffw
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    Shade, post: 8107 wrote:
    The only glitch thus far is set amounts versus commission. Many people want to pay me via percentage of takings and this blurs the lines in terms of what it is I actually am. Contracts are another thing….people run from them! haha. These elements are things I’ve not crossed before and is proving to be a learning curve.How can you prove their takings? This could potentially prove a big problem.

    My wife works for a travel accommodatin website which has a large reliance on self reporting (though that is changing). On a website, they can generate reports on traffic vs bookings. For a coffee vendor, that can be a problem.

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    soliddata
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    Shade, post: 8107 wrote:
    Contracts are another thing….people run from them! haha.

    Welcome Shade,

    You should get some great advice and friendship here.

    Regarding contracts, stick with it. Business is serious, and there are enough potential customers out there to not bother with the ones who won’t sign.

    Kev

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    Burgo
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    Welcome to our coffee shoppe, trouble is we have to make our own….

    Just a thought, instead of a % of sales why not charge a licence fee and supply the coffee beans which they must use also a rental of the equipment.

    They can then earn whatever the market will allow, then they can deduct the licence fee, equipment and beans as a ligitimate business deduction.

    Those that run away from a contract are those looking for a quick and easy buck….forget them………look for those that want to have their own small part time or full time business.

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    JennyGeng
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    HI,
    Most or nearly all, coffee.. are based on cash income. You have no way to trace them. So, for the percentage is a no, for defenite.
    Can you give me a bit more picture of how you genrate leads/approached your customers/ promote sales/your expected profits….,one person show or staff employed.
    Then, we can go from there.
    Personally, I have over 27 years of experience on world-wide and small business.
    Now, I am a profit growth specialist, licenced partner of BBI(Better Business Institute). Happy to help.
    Jenny
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    soliddata
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    Burgo, post: 23823 wrote:
    Welcome to our coffee shoppe, trouble is we have to make our own….

    LOL, and what sort of brew do you prepare best Burgo?

    :-)

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    Burgo
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    Hahaha….well according to anyone that has had the experience of one of my coffees…they have described it as almost drinkable.

    That is why i enjoy a professioally made coffee anytime.

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    soliddata
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    Burgo, post: 23849 wrote:
    Hahaha….well according to anyone that has had the experience of one of my coffees…they have described it as almost drinkable.

    LOL

    Reminds me of a section from E-Myth – Gerber said you can be less-than-perfect with the coffee you offer, because then you can show how you focus on the important aspects of your customer service (or something like that)…

    Kev

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    jdaley
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    By chance I was speaking with a mobile van coffee maker yesterday.
    he explained that for the first 200 coffees he pays nil, to cover set up expences at a venue he is attending for the day.
    Then for the next group 200-400 he paid 10%
    400 and above 15% of sales.
    Does that help?

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    exstatic
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    Welcome to the forums.. great to hear another coffee lover here!

    I think burgo is actually on to something, most cafe’s rate how good their coffee sales are by how many kg’s of beans they go through..

    Maybe you could put some provisions in for if you go through xx kg amount of coffee your rate is xx per hour, possibly have some sort of sliding scale.

    I would still have a minimum fee.. but this fee should change based on how well your barrista’s perform.

    I am guessing your selling point is by having a barrista at the helm of the machine will in turn churn out better coffee.. increasing their business?

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    soliddata
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    Thats the idea,

    If any incentive payments are involved they need to be for something that is measurable and in some way attributable to the person (Leela said something like this in a discussion late last year – worth looking back on).

    So if there are any possible incentive payments, they must be:
    – measurable (and verifiable by you in some way)
    – attributable to your barista
    – unable to be thwarted or negatively influenced by other underperformance within the coffee shop

    Kevin

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    bilalkhan
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    I want to know about your business strategy,that how could you define your Coffee business with respect to other competitors who may be good enough or least enough to provide good coffee to its customer and services as well

    COngrates for opening your own business

    cheerx:)
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