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    emmyb71
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    Hello,

    So glad I have found this excellent forum. This is my first post on here and I’m sure it won’t be my last :)

    I am currently working on a business plan for a beauty salon that I hope to open up early next year. I want it to look very polished from the get go. I am looking into hiring a shopfitting company to do the work for me but am worried about the overall cost and wondering if there are things that I can do or at least oversee myself.

    This is the first shop I would have opened although I have renovated two houses previously. I know this is a very different kettle of fish but just wanted to mention it as I did project manage the renovations including dealing with all the tradies, the budget and sourcing all the materials.

    Here are the some of main elements that I can identify that need to be done – (please feel free to add any that you think I may have overlooked)

    1. Plans and specifications drawn up – My brother in law is a draftsman and has offered to draw these up for me if I want him to.

    2. Interior design – including colour boards and mood boards decided upon.

    I find this one a bit daunting and would love an interior designer to design the space for me but am worried this will cost a ton of money. I am happy to source materials and furniture but just need a hand in deciding the overall look and what is required.

    3. Lighting – Lighting is very important to the salon and something that I know nothing about. I am currently looking into the possibility of hiring a lighting consultant for some advice but am happy to source my own lights and electrician if I know what it is that I require.

    4. Installation and construction – Happy to project manage this side of things as long as I have good solid plans drawn up and a strong team of professional tradesmen to help me out.

    OR

    I could employ the services of a shopfitter to do some or all of the above elements for me.

    So my question is.. do you think I should spend over half my budget on employing a shopfitter to oversee the whole project or do you think I can do it or some of it on my own?

    I got one rough estimate of 50-60k for 80m2 but it did not include any of the design elements. I had a chat with them just now on the phone but he sounded a bit sketchy to me, especially regarding design. For some reason I didn’t feel as though I trusted him.

    Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers,
    Emmy

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    Hi Emmy,

    I was looking to start a cafe again and was in the same position as you are. I have not gone ahead yet but what I found helpful was that I was referred to a architect and asked for a budget per square meter for a mid range fitout. His reply for a Cafe including equipment was $2K per square. This is just a give me a indication of what I am up for.

    Another consideration is if you plan to open in a shopping centre, shopping strip or other? If in a shopping centre then you need to be aware that they have a set standard for the quality of your fitout. Once designed, you will need to present your plans for approval. If not to standard you will be asked to redo them and any amendments will be at your cost. :-(

    Lastly you may want to allow for council approvals. I know for cafes there are some approvals required. Not sure if there are any for Beauty Salon.

    Some things for you to consider. Hope it helps.

    Cheers
    Michael

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    Hi Emmy, and welcome to the forum,

    What an exciting time for you! But nerve-wracking at the same time, huh?

    I’m not the right person to advise you on the shop fitting, design or any of your other specific questions, but I will say that if I get the feeling I shouldn’t trust someone during my first phone call with them, I have learned over the years to ALWAYS pay attention to that instinct and find someone different to work with.

    In contrast, the suppliers I LOVE working with are the ones who make me feel safe and comfortable from the outset – and I think that’s especially important when it comes to expenditure in an area that I’m not familiar with.

    Hope that helps,
    Jayne

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    Thanks Michael and Jayne. Michael, if it’s approximately 2k per m2 that means I am looking at around 200k for 100m2 which is out of my budget :( I am hoping that if I do decide to use a shopfitter, I can get it done for under 100k.

    Good point re. Shopping centres too… I am planning on a shopping strip though so hopefully I wont have to jump through too many hoops, although I did read somewhere that plans often require landlord’s approval which I would need to get prior to signing the lease.

    I have been looking into permits & after discussing my project with my brother in law who is a draftsman & a building surveyor it looks like I wont need any building permits but I do need to apply for council permits for registration which requires adhering to another whole set of requirements, plans & processes.

    Jayne you are spot on there. It sounded like he had been drinking! I definitely wont be using him. Luckily I have good instincts. But there are many other shopfitters out there. Just not sure if it is what I can afford.

    Emmy :)

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    emmyb71, post: 215486, member: 68068 wrote:
    Thanks Michael and Jayne. Michael, if it’s approximately 2k per m2 that means I am looking at around 200k for 100m2 which is out of my budget :( I am hoping that if I do decide to use a shopfitter, I can get it done for under 100k.

    Good point re. Shopping centres too… I am planning on a shopping strip though so hopefully I wont have to jump through too many hoops, although I did read somewhere that plans often require landlord’s approval which I would need to get prior to signing the lease.

    I have been looking into permits & after discussing my project with my brother in law who is a draftsman & a building surveyor it looks like I wont need any building permits but I do need to apply for council permits for registration which requires adhering to another whole set of requirements, plans & processes.

    Jayne you are spot on there. It sounded like he had been drinking! I definitely wont be using him. Luckily I have good instincts. But there are many other shopfitters out there. Just not sure if it is what I can afford.

    Emmy :)

    Emmy remember your square metreage price often gets cheaper the bigger you go as you have more open spaces, etc. Also the equipment required for a café could be more expensive than a salon (just my thoughts could be wrong). The best way is get your own quotes, as quotes from different industries vary so much depending on what is required..

    Personally from what you have said you can project manage, have a few people around you (ie. brother in law) who seem to know about things, I would be looking at doing it myself, and avoid the cost of a shopfitter who is going to add a fair bit on for all the trades, etc.

    Some electricians also know a bit about good lighting setup, I did say some, and this is where it becomes difficult, as some only know how to install to spec, but it may be worth shopping around, always ask to have a look at what similar lighting they have done.

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    Thanks Bert.. I am now leaning towards doing it myself with as much help as I can get. I have a friend who is studying interior design who I am going to ask to help me with the mood and colour palette and have already got lots of ideas from looking at images on pinterest. I think I will get a lighting consultant in too, just to help me figure out what type of lighting would suit the space best, and then source the lights and electrician myself. Getting excited! I hope I have made the right choice…

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    emmyb71, post: 215606, member: 68068 wrote:
    and have already got lots of ideas from looking at images on pinterest. …
    And remember there is nothing wrong with poking your head into other salons just to get ideas.
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    Just my 2 cents.

    A shopfitter is not necessarily a stand alone business, it’s actually a ‘subset’ of the carpentry and joinery trade.

    Many tradies specialise in this sort of work i.e. the actual physical work of fitting on site, usually from part fabricated components from a joinery shop. Also plenty of Joinery shops can do this work, they may just not call themselves shopfitters.

    If you can find a tradesman with the appropriate experience they’ll have a bag full of trick shots and solutions a lead contractor won’t tell you about or offer.

    I would also avoid using just ‘any’ carpenter, a specialist will save you a lot of hassle.

    If you’re in Victoria, PM me if you like and I’ll give you the contact details for a labour hire company that (used to) have heaps on their books … they actually manage the workforce of several large joinery and shopfitting companies.

    Good luck with it.

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    Hi there,

    I’m not sure this will be of benefit to you in your proposed business, but when we set up our toy shop a few years ago, with very little money, we decided to put our resources into stock, and do the fitting ourselves.

    Our solutions sound ludicrous, but they worked well: I made two old doors into a counter, then painted them the brand colours we’d decided upon; pinned some new carpet to an old timber bed frame (with its legs cut off), as a display stage; bought a handmade timber bench from an online auction . . . you get the idea. It looked clean, bright and professional, and cost less than 1k to fit out the whole thing.

    I’m sure a beauty salon demands other inventions, but your idea of doing it yourself is great, and adds more of “you” to your business from the start.

    Very best wishes with it all.

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