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    Rking100
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    Hello, I couldn’t find anything about my situation, I’m just looking for a bit more info,

    Okay, Lets say I register the business name ‘dan’s garden care ‘

    and I buy the domain ‘dans garden care .com.au’

    But I also want to do pressure washing, and I want it to stand out and have it’s own image, so I can advertise it seperately etc, so could I buy the domain
    ‘ brisbane pressure washing .com.au ‘
    and have on the website somthing like ‘brought to you by dan’s garden care’ without having to register ‘brisbane pressure washing’?

    thank you for any replies.

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    Hi {insert name although think ‘Dan’}

    Although i am not a domain or web guru, of which i am sure some will come along, i believe that the example you have given will not be possible.

    Reason:
    Registering a domain.com.au requires some form of ownership or link to said business name or trading name.. So, if you are a sole trader (assumption here) and you are t/as Dans Garden Care you will be able to register (if not taken) dansgardencare.com.au and in general any associated or truncated version of the names. Such as dansgarden.com.au, dansgcare.com.au, gardencare.com.au, dgc.com.au or similar associated names..

    That being said.. lets address the next problem… You can not trade as a business name if you dont have the business name registered. So if you propose to trade as brisbane pressure washing this is actually against the business rules as you have no legal entity or tie to that name and is merely a ‘made up’ name with no legal entity behind it.. even if it is you behind the business (aka Dan) the actual business name you want to use isnt registered therefore not allowed to trade under the appropriate acts.

    Take this to the domain, as you have no name registered as Brisbane Pressure Washing this will mitigate your option to register a domain name with a .com.au as there is not tie to that name as a business as such therefore unable to be registered (you cant prove you own that name)….

    There is nothing stopping you creating a name BrisbanePressureWashing.com and this doesnt require a registered business name so could have the website, although my query to you is why would you want to invest time and effort into creating a name for the pressure washing side of things without owning its name? just doenst make sense to me…

    To mitigate all this problem, and if you are a sole trader, all you need to do is spend approx $70-100 to register the business name (2nd name) of Brisbane Pressure Washing and then you could rightfully register the domain http://www.brisbanepressurewashing.com.au and use the web site as you see fit.. Be it one entity by putting brisbane pressure washing brought to you by Dans Garden Care or even keeping them completely separate visually other than each would be Dan t/as Dans Garden Care or t/as Brisbane Pressure Cleaning.

    Oh my, i typed too much.. apologies, but hope it was helpful?

    Cheers
    Jason

    Jason Ramage | Lucas Arthur Pty Ltd | E: [email protected]   P: 61 3 8324 0344    M: 61 412 244 888
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    Rking100
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    Thanks for that reply jason, no it was not too much you wrote, the more the better ‘)

    You mention I would need to prove ownership of the name before buying the domain, but I have bought a few .com.au’s in the past and all I needed was an abn, you can register anything as long as its not already taken, I know its only like 70 bucks for 3 years, or I could always go for the option of
    Dans garden care .com.au/pressure cleaning
    But I wouldnt of thought just getting out a separate domain name for the pressure cleaning would be an issue, essentially it would still be one business trading under dans garden care. Cheers.

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    LucasArthur
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    Ok,

    Great that too much info wasnt too much..

    Really, i think you need to head to the ausregistry website and read this link. Overview, or most relevant section, is this:
    “All Australian businesses, whether a company, business, registered body, owner, applicant of a registered trade mark or simply own a registered business name are eligible for a .com.au and .net.au Domain Name. You can get as many as you like.”

    Your comment about just needing an ABN for registering a .com.au is absolutely correct, but the ABN attached to it must be the name or a derivative of it and be associated to the name you intend or are registering with a .com.au. Thus, having an ABN registered as a t/as being Dans Garden Care isnt able to buy the doman Brisbane Pressure Cleaning as there is no derivative from your registered business name that has the ABN attached to it to justify it..

    However, your ABN can have multiple t/as names under it allowing that ABN to register multiple and completely separate names if the names are the same or derivatives of the registered business name..

    This is being done in .com.au space to prevent domain squatters etc etc, or to minimise it.

    Hope that helps
    Jason

    Jason Ramage | Lucas Arthur Pty Ltd | E: [email protected]   P: 61 3 8324 0344    M: 61 412 244 888
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    NM Books
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    I agre

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    Rking100
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    Thanks again Jason,

    I gave that article a read.. to me it looks like its saying it’s okay for me to have 2 domains, their example is:

    Jim’s Hardware and Supplies Pty Ltd may register as their General Website: http://www.jimshardware.com.au

    They may also register a generic term and forward it to their general website: http://www.hardwaresupplies.net.au – so jim didnt actually register ‘hardwaresupplies’ as a business name, he just bought the domain.

    What is less known about Jim’s Hardware and Supplies is that they specialise in hammers. So in order to attract a previously untapped market and boost their profile in the hammer market place, they decided to register a specialty site: http://www.hammers.com.au or http://www.mallets.net.au – again, I’m sure jim didnt buy the business names ‘hammers’ or ‘mallets’ but he actually created 2 separate sites for these tools.. this is essentially the reason I want to create ‘brisbanepressurewashing.com.au’ to create a separate site for a specialised service I offer.

    If Jim’s Hardware decides to advertise their hammers they might run a campaign called buyahammer.com.au and effectively use the link to direct potential buyers back to their website.

    I cant see how when Jims hardware registers all these other domains is any different to how dans garden care wants to register ‘brisbane pressure cleaning ‘ thanks again mate!

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