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    websitedesigner
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    Sorry guys I haven’t been in here much lately. Is there a discussion on the latest Google change? I’ve heard some crazy stories about exact match domains getting blasted from the SERPs.

    However I’ve looked at the niche that my old blog was in and there’s a fairly low quality exact match domain at number 1.

    Has anyone noticed anything on their sites?

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    I read this on SE Round Table a few days ago http://www.seroundtable.com/google-emd-update-15776.html

    I haven’t noticed anything but it will be interesting to see the washup on this one. EMDs have been “the” thing that everyone’s been saying will be devalued for years, now its actually happening.

    One thought that crossed my mind is that Adsense Flippers might find themselves in a bit of trouble.

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    I’ve not spotted any change in Australia. I suspect it may be a US only thing at the moment.

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    Mine are all gone!!
    Even my own web design site with no emd is gone…. Bad news!

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    Zava Design
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    EMD’s haven’t had any additional value for a while now, so not really anything new.

    And I always saw it as great news, just because someone happened to jump in and buy a certain domain name first, doesn’t mean they have the best/most relevant content on that site.

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    I dont see any change.

    Steve

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    seocourse
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    Yes hit Australia already.

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    Scrooge, post: 134301 wrote:
    Currently is affecting US sites only …..

    You are wrong.

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    Zava Design
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    EMDs have had no greater weighting than including keywords in the page name for at least a couple of years, probably a lot more.

    eg.
    keyword.com
    domain.com/keyword.php

    Both carry exactly the same keyword weighting.

    EMDs have been one of the great myths of SEO, pushed mostly by those wanting to sell their EMDs.

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    Zava Design, post: 134306 wrote:
    EMDs have had no greater weighting than including keywords in the page name for at least a couple of years, probably a lot more.

    eg.
    keyword.com
    domain.com/keyword.php

    Both carry exactly the same keyword weighting.

    EMDs have been one of the great myths of SEO, pushed mostly by those wanting to sell their EMDs.

    What is your source for this info?

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    Zava Design, post: 134306 wrote:
    EMDs have had no greater weighting than including keywords in the page name for at least a couple of years, probably a lot more.

    eg.
    keyword.com
    domain.com/keyword.php

    Both carry exactly the same keyword weighting.

    EMDs have been one of the great myths of SEO, pushed mostly by those wanting to sell their EMDs.

    so you are saying that a page vs a domain has the same weight?

    really?
    u mind showing me examples?

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    Craig_Longmuir
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    Zava Design, post: 134306 wrote:
    EMDs have had no greater weighting than including keywords in the page name for at least a couple of years, probably a lot more.

    eg.
    keyword.com
    domain.com/keyword.php

    Both carry exactly the same keyword weighting.

    EMDs have been one of the great myths of SEO, pushed mostly by those wanting to sell their EMDs.

    Personal theory ?!

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    Zava Design
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    Plenty of info online to back this up. I don’t think it’s any secret, you just have to get past the SEO “fluff” that is trying to sell you something to the well regarded resources out there, they all back this up.

    Plus being someone that likes to prove something for himself…

    A little over a year ago, in the early days of my “remote working” life, having a little more time to dedicate to my own income generation ideas, and looking for possible “passive income” ideas, I looked into the world of Adsense marketing, where people would create sites purely to display adsense ads on and earn an income from them. The aim is basically to create a site with enough content, and content written focusing on particular keywords, that search engines would rank them highly in search results, but with not quite enough content to satisfy the searcher so they would click on a adsense ad to try to find more info.

    So, I did months of keyword research to identify potential keyword groups to target. I did months of research to identify what factors sites used and worked to rank highly in search engines. MONTHS of dedicated research, not a few hours, not a couple of weeks (I have the spreadsheets as evidence).

    I bought dozens of domain names. I paid for lots of well written articles. And I experimented and tried different formats and combinations across a range of different keywords.

    Two things I learnt from my research:

    1) Most adsense marketing income is made from selling adsense marketing resources/information/training to those wanting to learn about adsense marketing.

    2) The domain name has minimal if any influence on your search engine ranking. When you do indepth research across dozens and dozens and dozens of different keywords and keyword groups, rather than one or two anecdotal “Hey, look at this!”, it is quite clear how minimal the impact is.

    And is it really surprising? What was the second SEO element that porn sites and the like abused after keyword stuffing? Domain and page names of course. Quite easy to buy a domain “bestfridges.com” and fill the page full of porn site banners.

    I don’t think EMD’s have had any real impact for at least 2 years, probably a few more than that. Any EMD’s older than that may have had benefit once, and maybe due to old links to the sites may still carry some benefit, but it has nothing to do with the EMD, and everything to do with older inbound links, domain age …etc.

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    Zava Design
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    seocourse, post: 134311 wrote:
    really?
    u mind showing me examples?
    Why don’t you show evidence otherwise? Sure if you’re saying something is so, the onus should be on proving that, not me disproving something which is not?

    Sounds a bit like someone asking me to prove that God doesn’t exist. ;)

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    Zava Design, post: 134318 wrote:
    I don’t think EMD’s have had any real impact for at least 2 years, probably a few more than that. Any EMD’s older than that may have had benefit once, and maybe due to old links to the sites may still carry some benefit, but it has nothing to do with the EMD, and everything to do with older inbound links, domain age …etc.

    Funny, I just looked at my adsense report for the last 18 months.
    I have over 15 EMD sites.
    A$52,645.70 paid.

    So may be you are right, EMD didn’t rank easily ;)
    I guess while you did your research other people where building sites .

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