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October 20, 2015 at 1:42 am #993073Up::0
Hi everyone,
Really need some help – I’m doing some market research on what aspects of cloud hosting developers/programmers/business owners find most important and I would HUGELY appreciate your feedback.
The survey literally takes 2 mins – no one likes a long survey!
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/962757X
Unfortunately, I have nothing to offer in return for your kindness, so I’ll just have to rely on your goodwill
Thank you so much!!
G
October 20, 2015 at 1:47 am #1189630Up::0Sorry I don’t respond to surveys where I am not told where the data is going to be used, by who, why, how, etc.
October 20, 2015 at 1:50 am #1189631Up::0Completely understandable Bert, thanks for your feedback.
No personal info whatsoever is collected in the survey, not even an email or business name.
I’m starting a new cloud hosting company and want to ensure that we are providing the market with what it needs and wants. The info collected will be used to determine certain marketing strategies and product positioning.
I hope this answers your questions, please let me know if not.
October 20, 2015 at 6:23 am #1189632AnonymousGuest- Total posts: 11,464
Up::0Thanks for clarifying what the survey is for [USER=69376]@noahconsulting[/USER] .
I hope your research proves fruitful and that you enjoy being part of Flying Solo.
Welcome to the gang, and best of luck for your new venture,
Jayne
October 21, 2015 at 12:42 am #1189633October 27, 2015 at 12:13 am #1189634Up::0I have completed your survey be interested in hearing your pricings/offerings once it’s live. I have a vps with web24 I wouldn’t mind moving, just struggling to find somewhere to move it
October 27, 2015 at 12:46 am #1189635Up::0Hi Andy,
Thanks so much for your feedback, hugely appreciated, it’s worth its weight in gold! We are currently live, feel free to take a look at our website (http://www.joviam.com) and create an account – you get $50 free credit on sign up to try us out.
Just to let you know, we’re in the process of updating our website to include more info on our private networking capabilities, API integrations, live/instant snapshoting and cloning of VMs etc.
There is a pricing calculator on the website to give you an idea of price for your requirements. We pride ourselves on the fact that we keep all our costing transparent.
If you have any questions at all or want info on specific aspects just let me know.
Thanks again!!
November 6, 2015 at 7:53 am #1189636Up::0Apologies for the criticism straight off the batt, but it’s to improve your research attempt here…
The items in your survey are not very well defined, and quite general. For example:
- “Control over configuration” is super-general. I’m pretty sure most people would want control over configuration, but it could mean almost any of about 20 different levels and different things.
- API: What *about* the API, exactly? Or does this mean “just having one”?
- Fast Data Transfer: between what and what? and for what? Define fast?
The other trouble with asking your clients what their priorities are is that most often your clients won’t actually understand what’s truly important to them… (at least, in my experience)… for example a lot of developers or devops will TELL you that uptime is incredibly important, but they actually don’t mind a few minutes every month for the sake of price reduction. Or, they will demand high speed transfers but really not mind when things are slow, for some definition of slow.
Also, just from a marketing point of view, how do you contrast yourselves with Amazon given that they’re amazingly cheap, big, fast and reliable?
November 19, 2015 at 2:23 am #1189637Up::0HI ‘getcontented’,
Thanks so much for the feedback – in my opinion any feedback is good feedback so it’s much appreciated.
All very valid points re: survey questions and things we’ll look to address. Specifically, in terms of the configuration question, here we were trying to avoid listing out all potential areas of configuration and keeping the questions more general to see whether the concept was of interest to users or not i.e. whether they’re simply happy for a provider to determine configurations for them.
In terms of how we differentiate ourselves from AWS – we’re not looking to compete directly with them. They do indeed have a very good product and it certainly serves a purpose very well.
Our ‘secret sauce’ is our hyperconverged architecture and the highly configurable nature of our platform i.e. Infrastructure-as-Code. Furthermore we offer features such as live cloning, private networking out-of-the-box and automatic data replication with self-healing nodes that we feel are very powerful.
If you’d like to give our platform a go we offer $50 of free credit on sign up.
Thanks again for taking the time to provide feedback.
November 19, 2015 at 2:36 am #1189638Up::0noahconsulting, post: 224341, member: 69376 wrote:HI ‘getcontented’,Thanks so much for the feedback – in my opinion any feedback is good feedback so it’s much appreciated.
All very valid points re: survey questions and things we’ll look to address. Specifically, in terms of the configuration question, here we were trying to avoid listing out all potential areas of configuration and keeping the questions more general to see whether the concept was of interest to users or not i.e. whether they’re simply happy for a provider to determine configurations for them.
In terms of how we differentiate ourselves from AWS – we’re not looking to compete directly with them. They do indeed have a very good product and it certainly serves a purpose very well.
Our ‘secret sauce’ is our hyperconverged architecture and the highly configurable nature of our platform i.e. Infrastructure-as-Code. Furthermore we offer features such as live cloning, private networking out-of-the-box and automatic data replication with self-healing nodes that we feel are very powerful.
If you’d like to give our platform a go we offer $50 of free credit on sign up.
Thanks again for taking the time to provide feedback.
Hi,
What do you mean by “hyperconverged architecture”?
What do you mean by “infrastructure as code”?How is any of this different than AWS and/or Heroku? Sorry, I’m at a bit of a loss to see the difference here?
November 19, 2015 at 11:34 pm #1189639Up::0No worries at all, I’ll try and explain.
“Hyperconverged architecture” refers to storage and compute residing on the same physical servers. AWS and other large public clouds (OpenStack, etc) typically use a storage area network, which is a performance bottleneck and a single point of failure.
Our backend acts more like a decentralised mesh in this sense. In practice, this means storage and networking is faster, simpler, more reliable and much cheaper to build (which we pass on). It also allows us to do the real-time n+1 storage replication without performance penalty, which other providers can’t. If a server has an issue, you’re automatically restarted elsewhere.
“Infrastructure as code” is a term (perhaps a bit buzzwordy) we’ve been seeing thrown around lately to describe IaaS platforms aimed at devops instead of just sysadmins. There’s a perception that developers always want to use SaaS offerings like Heroku, which abstracts away a lot of things like DBs, web servers etc but imposes constraints and that become more of an issue when you grow.
Our point is the platform’s API allows you to provision instances, networks, disks, add SSH keys etc, so it’s a perfect fit for devops tools like Ansible and Puppet. Because it uses JSON, you can also write your own clients or libraries in Ruby, Python and such. In fact the whole frontend is a GUI for the API itself.
So compared to AWS, I’d say we’re far more efficient and more developer focused. We’re not really in the same space as Heroku (they’re SaaS), but we’re certainly interested in changing public perception.
Thanks!
November 20, 2015 at 11:23 am #1189640Up::0noahconsulting, post: 224402, member: 69376 wrote:No worries at all, I’ll try and explain.“Hyperconverged architecture” refers to storage and compute residing on the same physical servers. AWS and other large public clouds (OpenStack, etc) typically use a storage area network, which is a performance bottleneck and a single point of failure.
Our backend acts more like a decentralised mesh in this sense. In practice, this means storage and networking is faster, simpler, more reliable and much cheaper to build (which we pass on). It also allows us to do the real-time n+1 storage replication without performance penalty, which other providers can’t. If a server has an issue, you’re automatically restarted elsewhere.
“Infrastructure as code” is a term (perhaps a bit buzzwordy) we’ve been seeing thrown around lately to describe IaaS platforms aimed at devops instead of just sysadmins. There’s a perception that developers always want to use SaaS offerings like Heroku, which abstracts away a lot of things like DBs, web servers etc but imposes constraints and that become more of an issue when you grow.
Our point is the platform’s API allows you to provision instances, networks, disks, add SSH keys etc, so it’s a perfect fit for devops tools like Ansible and Puppet. Because it uses JSON, you can also write your own clients or libraries in Ruby, Python and such. In fact the whole frontend is a GUI for the API itself.
So compared to AWS, I’d say we’re far more efficient and more developer focused. We’re not really in the same space as Heroku (they’re SaaS), but we’re certainly interested in changing public perception.
Thanks!
Ok… actually I think you can get around all of these issues by simply architecting your software better. Things like Apache Samza provide solutions for this kind of problem where there’s no need to worry about *where* things are… they always end up in the right spot where you need them, in memory where speed is a concern.
It’s all interesting food for thought. I find Amazon’s prices stupendously cheap.
November 29, 2015 at 7:51 am #1189641November 29, 2015 at 8:45 am #1189642Up::0I’ve completed the survey. I noted “API” and “Other – Security” as the most important aspects for cloud computing. When I refer to API I mean the ability to connect to major providers of data and security being the integrity of the data and end-to-end encryption with insurance.
November 29, 2015 at 10:03 pm #1189643Up::0Done, thanks for keeping the survey short, but I agree with the above comments: the questions are pretty general and people could interpret them differently. I hope you get insights you can work with
I also noticed that the intro text on your website is very technical – “empowering developers” is great but after that it becomes hard to understand, even for techies. Someone was also asking in here what those terms mean. It’s great that you can explain and I get that you’re proud of your product and don’t want to wash information down to Teletubbies niveau – but from my experience, you really need to explain those things on the website. With text that’s a lot shorter than the one you’ve written.
Imagine talking to an impatient junior dev when explaining things on your website and focus on what they’d like to know to keep your texts engaging.
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