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    @aidia.com.au
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    Does anyone has any experience trying to get work from freelancer.com.au? I tried this method recently – thinking that my target audience (i.e. small businesses) might be using this site to look for freelance web designers. Trouble is, I’m competing with the world world! Early days for me but it’ll be useful to hear some advice from people who’s used the site. Should I continue bidding for jobs or should I forget it… Thanks.

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    Only Kindness Matters
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    Hi
    I have used Freelancer alot and personally I do try and look for people from Australia/New Zealand before I venture further afield. However most people on there are from other countries. I love it because I can post a project and get alot of people giving me their ideas and then I get to pick – means I am not just trusting one person who may not deliver (this has happened to me before – alot of money wasted).
    Keep bidding you never know and once you build a few reviews work will flow.
    Rachel

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    Need Leads?
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    Hey there, I have used it before as a business but unfortunately i found it hard to find Australians on there… I would say with any jobs you apply for to Highlight the reasons why choosing an Australian is more beneficial to their business. And maybe try to search for Australian employers on there too.

    Also please let me know what type of work you’re looking for as I may be able to help :)

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    dima
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    I’ve used it before as a freelancer, 3-4 years ago though. There was always competition with people living in places where the cost of living is much lower. You just have to know that you will never be able to give the best price, you have to sell your skills as worth a little more. I did get a few jobs for more local people/businesses in Australia/Singapore where my knowledge was an advantage to them.

    I have looked back recently to see if it is worth using again, and it is much more competitive than it was even then. I do have a good reputation on there which would help my bid sit above a lot of others, but even so, I personally would not bother quoting unless the jobs were for a local, or it is clear by what they have written that they value quality over price. A large proportion of people are using it purely to find rock-bottom prices… Keep in mind though, some of the rock-bottom priced work is actually quite good and you could be competing with $2-10/hr, then if you get the job giving 10% to the website (plus 10% of that fee in GST for their “service”)… then you’ll probably pay at least a dollar or so for the privilege of withdrawing whatever is left over, which potentially could have 10% GST charged on it if you are a business.

    Competition may be different in other fields though.

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    @aidia.com.au
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    Only Kindness Matters, post: 224433, member: 49046 wrote:
    Hi
    I have used Freelancer alot and personally I do try and look for people from Australia/New Zealand before I venture further afield. However most people on there are from other countries. I love it because I can post a project and get alot of people giving me their ideas and then I get to pick – means I am not just trusting one person who may not deliver (this has happened to me before – alot of money wasted).
    Keep bidding you never know and once you build a few reviews work will flow.
    Rachel

    Thanks for the feedback, Rachel. I’ll keep trying :-)

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    @aidia.com.au
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    Need Leads?, post: 224436, member: 53805 wrote:
    Hey there, I have used it before as a business but unfortunately i found it hard to find Australians on there… I would say with any jobs you apply for to Highlight the reasons why choosing an Australian is more beneficial to their business. And maybe try to search for Australian employers on there too.

    Also please let me know what type of work you’re looking for as I may be able to help :)

    Hi there, thanks for your reply. I run a website design business and our target audience is small business owners. I also offer marketing support service for those who are too busy running their business. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    @aidia.com.au
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    dima, post: 224442, member: 70936 wrote:
    I’ve used it before as a freelancer, 3-4 years ago though. There was always competition with people living in places where the cost of living is much lower. You just have to know that you will never be able to give the best price, you have to sell your skills as worth a little more. I did get a few jobs for more local people/businesses in Australia/Singapore where my knowledge was an advantage to them.

    I have looked back recently to see if it is worth using again, and it is much more competitive than it was even then. I do have a good reputation on there which would help my bid sit above a lot of others, but even so, I personally would not bother quoting unless the jobs were for a local, or it is clear by what they have written that they value quality over price. A large proportion of people are using it purely to find rock-bottom prices… Keep in mind though, some of the rock-bottom priced work is actually quite good and you could be competing with $2-10/hr, then if you get the job giving 10% to the website (plus 10% of that fee in GST for their “service”)… then you’ll probably pay at least a dollar or so for the privilege of withdrawing whatever is left over, which potentially could have 10% GST charged on it if you are a business.

    Competition may be different in other fields though.

    Hi Dima, thanks for the feedback. You’re absolutely right about pricing issue. I’ll give this a try a bit longer and in the meantime will look for other venue to get more clients. Thanks again.

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    jtco
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    Don’t waste your time. The job posters are all super cheapskates and still expect the world whereas your competitors will be offering everything under the sun for close to nothing.

    #1190795
    CloudStorming
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    Yes I agree with others, that to offer your services as an Australian at a reasonable Australian price you are not going to get much interest, UNLESS you have specialised skills such as Google Analytics, or proper SEO optimisation of websites, not just graphic design. If you google “SEO food Pyramid” you will see that many ranking factors go back to site architecture. I would focus on that, if anything.

    Small businesses who know about Freelancer are not really the type of clients you are looking for as they will be extremely price sensitive. You should look for clients who understand that a website is more than just static design, it is about lead generation and communications.

    Better to use freelancer and Upwork to find talented collaborators, and then focus on handling project management, and sales and marketing, so that you can gain new leads and clients while delegating teachable and repeatable tasks.

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    Davejochow
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    jtco, post: 224447, member: 72388 wrote:
    Don’t waste your time. The job posters are all super cheapskates and still expect the world whereas your competitors will be offering everything under the sun for close to nothing.
    I have used it before and well maybe Justin to rephrase that, they are probably starting their business in the begining and they don’t have the capital to spend thousands of dollars on websites, and if you can get a cheaper service, people will go for a cheaper option, sometimes not the best, but still its there.
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    thekindconsultant
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    I use to pick up good work from Elance and oDesk regularly when I freelanced. Occasionally there would be work worth bidding on, and I found that by putting on the ‘consultant hat’ I would at least get a reply. By that I mean, looking into their business – if that info is provided up-front – and proposal in a bit more depth, and giving a bit away for free.

    As always with these sites, there are folks wanting everything for nothing, “1000 page likes from engaged users in 3 days for $5!” But I turned several of these folks around and at least got a paid gig steering them in the right direction. Often people have no idea where to start and aren’t aware that their expectations are unreasonable. And they appreciate being helped.

    #1190798
    JamesR
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    I’ve used most of those sites in the past too … for me, the trick is to be able to screen the time-wasters quickly – because there is going to be alot of them. To be fair, that skill does take practice though. Being able to quickly screen responses and delete/ignore them is important, because THERE ARE some genuine customers (and suppliers) to be found on these forums … you just need to wade through alot of substandard options to find them.

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    Karen Koelewyn
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    @aidia.com.au, post: 223884, member: 72645 wrote:
    Does anyone has any experience trying to get work from freelancer.com.au? I tried this method recently – thinking that my target audience (i.e. small businesses) might be using this site to look for freelance web designers. Trouble is, I’m competing with the world world! Early days for me but it’ll be useful to hear some advice from people who’s used the site. Should I continue bidding for jobs or should I forget it… Thanks.
    Check out upwork.com reputable site, I find not so many fraudulent time wasters on the site.
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