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    EmbalmSkincare
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    Hi there,

    Is there any graphic designer here who could help me with a couple of questions/issues?

    It’s in regards to product labels and printing issues.

    Please let me know and I’ll PM you.

    Thank you in advance!

    Regards,
    Mel

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    EmbalmSkincare
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    Is there no graphic designer in this forum?
    :(

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    MyGreatIdea
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    Mel, I think if you put your questions out to the forum, you’d probably get plenty of help.

    People are more inclined to answer straight away rather than pm you.

    Wendy :)

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    EmbalmSkincare
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    Hi Wendy,

    Thanks for that. Will try…

    My current dilema is this, I have had labels designed and they are with the printer at the moment. The first proof was crap as
    1) there was a problem with one particular colour that didn’t look anything like it was meant to look

    2) my label design has a gradient/shading at the front. Coming back from the printer, the gradient/shading looked like thin lines (which the printer calls banding).

    Now, the printer says the graphic designer needs to work on the artwork again, my designer says it’s an issue at the printers end.
    The graphic designer has already re-worked the designs and the printer has a new version but still mentions some issues. I’m currently waiting on the second proof.

    Note: I have supplied the printer with the CMYK code and name for the colour in question.

    I’m just trying to understand what’s been happening, if that is a normal thing or if I’m just unlucky. And I’d also like to know what I should do in this case.

    Thanks a lot!

    Kind regards,
    Mel

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    OneArmedGraphics
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    Do you know what sort of Print technology they are using?

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    AgentMail
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    Hi Mel,

    Classic printer/designer he said she said situation.

    One problem I found was that many graphic designers are not used to preparing files for print.

    If you are using specific colours, it is better to use Pantone or PMS codes, as these can be exactly matched. The other problem is that when you look at your artwork from your designer on your computer screen, you are looking at it through RGB colour, which can massively vary from an end printed result.

    If changing designers is an option, I’d highly recommend picking one that is used to working or specialises in print. Perhaps your printer has their own graphic division – this always makes life easier (no-one else to blame)

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    EmbalmSkincare
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    No, I don’t know what printing technology they are using. Should it say on their website? Will have a look.

    Hm, my designer has actually a lot of experience. I’ve seen his work. He printed all my labels on his printer (which is probably different to the printer’s printer) but he couldn’t see any lines. Then again, there was a kind of similar issue on my business cards.

    But fortunately, yes, the printer has his own graphic designer.

    Thanks guys!

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    From my experience, it’s usually a postscript issue.

    A workaround is for the designer to rasterize the background gradient and save the pdf as version 4 not 5 or above and for the designer to make sure everything is flattened correctly at the highest resolutions.

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    In addition to Karen’s comments: banding sometimes happens when the gradient isn’t set up properly. It should never go from one colour percentage to zero, the lightest tone should have at least a 5% tint. A gradient set up from just one or two tones can cause problems.
    You won’t see it on a normal desktop printer print out but on a professiona it shows.

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    EmbalmSkincare
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    Thanks everyone!

    I will now wait for the second proof and go from there. By the time it’s all working I probably have to find a new designer and a new printer *lol*

    I’m having one of those doubtful moments today if it’s all worth it…

    Regards,
    Mel

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    AgentMail
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    Happens to us all Mel,

    I hate it when something is out of my control, just ask my courier!

    Stick with it, the end result will be worth it :)

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    Hi Fingerfood. A handy trick with gradient backgrounds is to add a very subtle “noise” effect (your GD will know what that is). This stippling effect helps to break up the continuous tones that cause the banding when converted to linear halftones. When toggling the noise level, it should be only just visible when the background is magnified on the screen, but not noticeable when viewed at actual size.

    The background will need to be rasterised first.

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