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February 24, 2012 at 2:03 pm #1091013Up::0
We got 2 extremes here.
1.The “kumbayah”, “law of attraction”, “everything is just fine” type
2.The “do or die mofo” type
You can’t “wish” into success neither can you “Waterboard” (ahem – interrogate) people into success.
What’s missing here is understanding the various personality types and influencing others accordingly – beginners, check out Allan Pease.
My pet peeve and i am guilty of this is the type who end up belittling others whilst attempting (And failing) to prove how smart they are instead of counselling / coaching / consulting others to success – which takes time and patience.
Disrespect and belittlement is not tolerated in a civilised society so why should it be tolerated in this community? Don’t hold you breath expecting others to “harden up”.
The reality is infotainer has alot to offer. No doubt. How about toning down and as a result, becoming an influencer? welcome guest vs annoying pest.
I consider myself to have a “stern but loving parent” approach to everything but the degree of “sternness” is based on the type of personality and i want to ensure that i come across as firm but not arrogant.
Still working on getting it right so im no saint.
February 24, 2012 at 2:13 pm #1090906Up::0I think the biggest problem with the internet is that it can be very difficult to convey tone through text. I saw the post in question and you had nothing but good intentions from what I could see. Always better to tell a harsh truth rather than give someone false hope. They may feel a bit hurt in the short-term but in the long run they will thank you.
February 24, 2012 at 2:13 pm #1091014Up::0I think the biggest problem with the internet is that it can be very difficult to convey tone through text. I saw the post in question and you had nothing but good intentions from what I could see. Always better to tell a harsh truth rather than give someone false hope. They may feel a bit hurt in the short-term but in the long run they will thank you.
February 25, 2012 at 4:59 am #1090908Up::0I think the FS team is doing a great job Robert.
I should have given myself an uppercut before writing no holds barred
Robert Gerrish, post: 107292 wrote:Hi WarrenI realise this question was to members…
…and you may not have me in mind! But for my twopenneth, I suggest that ‘no holds barred’ rarely works. Forums need guidelines and moderators or they quickly spiral downwards.
The popularity of these forums suggest we have things about right. Yes, we’ll make mistakes (I’ve made plenty) and yes, we’ll need to adjust as we go, but generally I hope you’ll agree the forums serve members and newbies pretty well.
Robert
February 25, 2012 at 4:59 am #1091015Up::0I think the FS team is doing a great job Robert.
I should have given myself an uppercut before writing no holds barred
Robert Gerrish, post: 107292 wrote:Hi WarrenI realise this question was to members…
…and you may not have me in mind! But for my twopenneth, I suggest that ‘no holds barred’ rarely works. Forums need guidelines and moderators or they quickly spiral downwards.
The popularity of these forums suggest we have things about right. Yes, we’ll make mistakes (I’ve made plenty) and yes, we’ll need to adjust as we go, but generally I hope you’ll agree the forums serve members and newbies pretty well.
Robert
February 25, 2012 at 6:46 am #1090909Up::0I notice another favourite of mine, King, has been awfully quiet following some criticism of his posts.
Reasons why I have been quiet of late:
1. Moved domestic situation, so getting life back on track (read between the lines )
2. I started a thread on this: about how there are toooo many people who want to be spoon fed and cannot even do a simple search of the forum to get the answer (even though it may have been asked twice in the same week – yes I sometime respond “search the bloody forum!“) or do basic internet research (I guess I am growing away from the relationship – see point 1 LOL!)
3. The vulture members who swoop whenever there is a business opportunity (yes you web designers, SEO, printing people – you know who you are…) I find eerrr… frustrating (now that was polite!!)
4. I am getting nothing in return for my investment. I don’t mind giving ….but…..
5. Back to point 2….there is nothing new to comment on after over 1,659 posts
6. Not due to criticism of my posts. If you cannot deal with a SMALL amount of directness, stay an employee cos you won’t survive being in business for yourself.Many other members have come and gone since I joined, others now make a much more nominal contribution as I know they share some of my sentiments. So I will be contributing still, but only when I think the original poster will benefit and react to input and that they have somehow demonstrated some aspect of the self-reliance needed to be a solo business person; because lets face it, so many do not.
February 25, 2012 at 6:46 am #1091016Up::0I notice another favourite of mine, King, has been awfully quiet following some criticism of his posts.
Reasons why I have been quiet of late:
1. Moved domestic situation, so getting life back on track (read between the lines )
2. I started a thread on this: about how there are toooo many people who want to be spoon fed and cannot even do a simple search of the forum to get the answer (even though it may have been asked twice in the same week – yes I sometime respond “search the bloody forum!“) or do basic internet research (I guess I am growing away from the relationship – see point 1 LOL!)
3. The vulture members who swoop whenever there is a business opportunity (yes you web designers, SEO, printing people – you know who you are…) I find eerrr… frustrating (now that was polite!!)
4. I am getting nothing in return for my investment. I don’t mind giving ….but…..
5. Back to point 2….there is nothing new to comment on after over 1,659 posts
6. Not due to criticism of my posts. If you cannot deal with a SMALL amount of directness, stay an employee cos you won’t survive being in business for yourself.Many other members have come and gone since I joined, others now make a much more nominal contribution as I know they share some of my sentiments. So I will be contributing still, but only when I think the original poster will benefit and react to input and that they have somehow demonstrated some aspect of the self-reliance needed to be a solo business person; because lets face it, so many do not.
February 25, 2012 at 8:46 am #1090911Up::0David, if you can “Dish it Out” you have to learn to “Take iT” as well. That’s what a forum involves, but if you are “Thin Skinned”, then this is not the place for you. Some of your advice and criticism is good, but it seems when someone criticises you a “Big Tantrum” is in order.
February 25, 2012 at 8:46 am #1091017Up::0David, if you can “Dish it Out” you have to learn to “Take iT” as well. That’s what a forum involves, but if you are “Thin Skinned”, then this is not the place for you. Some of your advice and criticism is good, but it seems when someone criticises you a “Big Tantrum” is in order.
February 25, 2012 at 12:17 pm #1090915Up::0The Infotainer, post: 107245 wrote:Hi and goodbyewhere do I go to delete my account
I am not the most educated man in the world and my writting is poor with grammar and words used but I am sick to god dam death of having my posts removed because some so called adult can’t take negatiove feedback.
please delete my account NOW
and please don’t send me the “are you sure you want to go”
YES I AM SURE, I AM DONE WITH TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CAN’T TAKE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK
Today my 2 year old got sand in his Ice cream at the beach.
So he had a Tantrum
his Tantrum lasted 3 minutes.So my suggestion
What about if we all put some $ together and we buy The Infotainer a new Ice cream?
Seriously if you STAY I will send you an icecream to your office on Monday.
[NO IDEA HOW TO DO THAT but I bet I can get it done]
February 25, 2012 at 12:17 pm #1091019Up::0The Infotainer, post: 107245 wrote:Hi and goodbyewhere do I go to delete my account
I am not the most educated man in the world and my writting is poor with grammar and words used but I am sick to god dam death of having my posts removed because some so called adult can’t take negatiove feedback.
please delete my account NOW
and please don’t send me the “are you sure you want to go”
YES I AM SURE, I AM DONE WITH TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CAN’T TAKE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK
Today my 2 year old got sand in his Ice cream at the beach.
So he had a Tantrum
his Tantrum lasted 3 minutes.So my suggestion
What about if we all put some $ together and we buy The Infotainer a new Ice cream?
Seriously if you STAY I will send you an icecream to your office on Monday.
[NO IDEA HOW TO DO THAT but I bet I can get it done]
February 25, 2012 at 12:23 pm #1090918Up::0King, post: 107353 wrote:Reasons why I have been quiet of late:1. Moved domestic situation, so getting life back on track (read between the lines )
2. I started a thread on this: about how there are toooo many people who want to be spoon fed and cannot even do a simple search of the forum to get the answer (even though it may have been asked twice in the same week – yes I sometime respond “search the bloody forum!“) or do basic internet research (I guess I am growing away from the relationship – see point 1 LOL!)
3. The vulture members who swoop whenever there is a business opportunity (yes you web designers, SEO, printing people – you know who you are…) I find eerrr… frustrating (now that was polite!!)
4. I am getting nothing in return for my investment. I don’t mind giving ….but…..
5. Back to point 2….there is nothing new to comment on after over 1,659 posts
6. Not due to criticism of my posts. If you cannot deal with a SMALL amount of directness, stay an employee cos you won’t survive being in business for yourself.Many other members have come and gone since I joined, others now make a much more nominal contribution as I know they share some of my sentiments. So I will be contributing still, but only when I think the original poster will benefit and react to input and that they have somehow demonstrated some aspect of the self-reliance needed to be a solo business person; because lets face it, so many do not.
Yet another one of your posts to make me smile…still one of my favorites
Wendy
February 25, 2012 at 12:23 pm #1091020Up::0King, post: 107353 wrote:Reasons why I have been quiet of late:1. Moved domestic situation, so getting life back on track (read between the lines )
2. I started a thread on this: about how there are toooo many people who want to be spoon fed and cannot even do a simple search of the forum to get the answer (even though it may have been asked twice in the same week – yes I sometime respond “search the bloody forum!“) or do basic internet research (I guess I am growing away from the relationship – see point 1 LOL!)
3. The vulture members who swoop whenever there is a business opportunity (yes you web designers, SEO, printing people – you know who you are…) I find eerrr… frustrating (now that was polite!!)
4. I am getting nothing in return for my investment. I don’t mind giving ….but…..
5. Back to point 2….there is nothing new to comment on after over 1,659 posts
6. Not due to criticism of my posts. If you cannot deal with a SMALL amount of directness, stay an employee cos you won’t survive being in business for yourself.Many other members have come and gone since I joined, others now make a much more nominal contribution as I know they share some of my sentiments. So I will be contributing still, but only when I think the original poster will benefit and react to input and that they have somehow demonstrated some aspect of the self-reliance needed to be a solo business person; because lets face it, so many do not.
Yet another one of your posts to make me smile…still one of my favorites
Wendy
February 25, 2012 at 2:15 pm #1090920Up::0seocourse, post: 107374 wrote:Seriously if you STAY I will send you an icecream to your office on Monday.[NO IDEA HOW TO DO THAT but I bet I can get it done]
I am lactose intolerance so that will make me spend 3 days in the rest room
also I am not 2
February 25, 2012 at 2:15 pm #1091021Up::0seocourse, post: 107374 wrote:Seriously if you STAY I will send you an icecream to your office on Monday.[NO IDEA HOW TO DO THAT but I bet I can get it done]
I am lactose intolerance so that will make me spend 3 days in the rest room
also I am not 2
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