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    happyez
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    Hi all

    This is definitely not a standard question, so I hope someone has an idea.

    I am producing a professional and authoritative report/directory, and am deciding on how to bind.

    Typically it is perfect bound (like the Yellow Pages is), but I am also thinking of wire binding (looped black metal wire) so people can open the book flat.

    If anyone has worked in a office department and has handled reports and references, do you think a wire coil metal binding will look fine or unprofessional (that is, unsuited to being on the shelf). You may think it is of no issue.

    I’m up for any answer.
    Thanks in advance!
    Eric

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    For personal preference if it’s something I’m using a lot … I’d prefer wire bound.

    They sit flat when reading, and if you’re using them constantly you’re not forcing the binding.

    I no longer use Yellow pages, either the book or online, but it was a mongrel thing to use when I did (both versions).

    I use wire bound notebooks for the same reasons.

    My 2 cents

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    Have you looked into the price difference? Perfect binding is usually MUCH cheaper than wire binding.

    Both can look very professional if done properly – the big downside to wire binding being that when the book is on a shelf, there’s no printed spine to show the world what it is.

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    bluepenguin, post: 191297 wrote:
    Have you looked into the price difference? Perfect binding is usually MUCH cheaper than wire binding.

    Both can look very professional if done properly – the big downside to wire binding being that when the book is on a shelf, there’s no printed spine to show the world what it is.

    Hi bp

    I hadn’t actually checked out the pricing (er, I’ll get onto that), but my thought was that perfect binding involved a gluing process with 8 or 16 sections. They then send that out to a specialised service doing the amount of pages I am doing (over 700). The cost becomes quite big.

    Wire binding is just punching holes and spinning wire through with loose leafs.

    Then again, you are right, you can’t see the spine. Maybe a hardcover which holds the book will solve that.

    The thing is, no other directory (think Dun and Bradstreet or Who’s Who) does wire binding…..

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    estim8, post: 191296 wrote:
    For personal preference if it’s something I’m using a lot … I’d prefer wire bound.

    They sit flat when reading, and if you’re using them constantly you’re not forcing the binding.

    I no longer use Yellow pages, either the book or online, but it was a mongrel thing to use when I did (both versions).

    I use wire bound notebooks for the same reasons.

    My 2 cents

    Thanks estim8

    That’s the reason I am thinking of doing it, and it may be cheaper…

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    Just a thought – wire binding usually has a maximum number of pages between 80 and 128. You say your document is 700 pages? That’s large in any case. Perhaps you should be thinking of seven volumes as a set that can be encased in a box which then would become the spine on the shelf.

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    KarenC, post: 191372 wrote:
    Just a thought – wire binding usually has a maximum number of pages between 80 and 128. You say your document is 700 pages? That’s large in any case. Perhaps you should be thinking of seven volumes as a set that can be encased in a box which then would become the spine on the shelf.

    Hey, that’s a great idea! Thanks heaps for that.

    I believe you can wire bind 700 pages, but the wire has quite a wide diameter. I’ve seen it on some publications, including an annual A/NZ Wine Directory that has about the same number of pages as mine…..
    If this is true, the board would be quite thick so it forms a solid structure (no dangling and curving of the paper), and the last page of the book is glued to the board.

    I’ll talk to some printers soon about this.
    Eric

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    Eric – the reason I suggested the seven volumes was also for handling. Just one volume of 700 pages will be too heavy for people to use and then it becomes just a specialised book in a library on a desk.

    Cheers.

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    KarenC, post: 191412 wrote:
    Eric – the reason I suggested the seven volumes was also for handling. Just one volume of 700 pages will be too heavy for people to use and then it becomes just a specialised book in a library on a desk.

    Yeah, that’s what it is. It’s a professional reference data publication, and it will be there to be used all year round. Most data publications (D&B, Euromonitor) go up to 1200 pages. Thank Who’s Who matched with an Ibis Report and that’s what I am producing.
    I do like the idea of breaking it down as well, so I’ll have a think about it. I hadn’t occured to me (other than making it 2 volumes because of fussy printers), so that’s what I was thanking you for.
    Eric

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