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    Ben_Oz
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    Under the forum rules, can people recommend SEO companies here?

    I have found a few SEO’s companies I plan on getting quotes from, but wouldn’t mind to find out if anyone here has used them before.

    Thanks,

    Ben

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    John Templeton
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    I’d say as long as no one writes anything defamatory or anything like that it should be fine. Who are you looking at?

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    Ben_Oz
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    http://www.clickfactory.com.au/

    These guys sound great, and have worked with a company I worked for. Judging from their client list I’m guessing they are also expensive!

    http://www.seo-australia.net.au/

    Got a cold call from these guys which always puts me off, but again they seem to have had some good clients.

    http://www.roi.com.au/seo/ & also http://dejanseo.com.au/

    They are all probably out of our price range, but we’re new to this and I have no idea how much it costs, so any one that has used any of these companies, your feedback would be appreciated.

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    SEO has changed in recent times which I believe is putting many SEO companies under far more pressure these days. Content is now king, so whatever company you choose you should be understanding what resources are allocated to developing a content strategy.

    The last two on the list are well known and established in the Industry, have heard of the first but don’t know anything about them and I personally avoid the cold callers.

    I worked with one of these companies for 5 years which I won’t name.

    Having seen first hand what goes on, my advice would be to look for a person rather than a company. Your website performance will only be as good as the strategy and its execution. If you are going to be a small fish in a big pond your strategy might come from someone that was painting nails 3 months earlier.

    Linkedin is a great resource to find search marketing consultants. Often you can get pay by the hour specialist that earn their money. It might seem on the surface seem like more money to begin with, BUT you will be dealing directly with an expert that will be deliver better long term results.

    Avoid the sales hype, onerous contracts and 2nd or 3rd tier staff that you might be lumped with. Remember the agencies best minds work with the largest clients – that impressive client list – those account managers won’t be working with you.

    Feel free to contact me for a recommendation for SEO expert – that I won’t post here

    Cheers

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    Hi Ben,

    We are also blessed to have some very knowledgeable and experienced SEO folk here in the forums. Take a read through some of the posts in this section of the forum, and see whether any of the regular contributors there come across as being the kind of people you’d like to work with, and with expertise that seems in line with what you need.

    Good luck!
    Jayne

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    SEO is one of the few things I would encourage you to do yourself. It will certainly take a few months to learn the ins and outs, but it is a valuable skill moving forward.

    For a new business the costs of outsourcing are usually prohibitive. $500/month won’t get you far with the agencies listed above.

    Plus one of the biggest factors in SEO is quality content.

    Only you know your market and business inside out, so only you can write the perfect content for it.

    There are plenty of great resources out there for learning SEO. SEOmoz is a big player in the industry so their beginner’s guide is probably a good place to start: http://www.seomoz.org/beginners-guide-to-seo

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    Hi Ben,
    You raise very real and thorny issues for businesses trying to assess SEO services.

    Can I offer a couple of suggestions?

    1. SE Referral History
    About every 2-3 years Google emasculates the latest link building schemes.

    The people who get hurt are the website owners who used the multitude of SEO services that employed these “quick-and-dirty” short term tactics.

    So, one way of clearing out the “short-term-wonder” SEOs is to ask them to show you examples of their work that was not compromised by Google’s Panda, Penguin and other changes over the last 12-18 months.

    2. SEO Experience
    There are thousands of “churn-and-burn” SEO services out there. I get emails and phone calls from them every day.

    Can I suggest you ask about the experience of the PERSON who will be working on your account?

    IMHO, No one can provide really good SEO without an intimate knowledge of the client’s business and their business objectives. If you jump into a service provided by a big SEO company, you may find you are dealing with frequently changing “juniors” with very limited qualifications and experience.

    Relevant experience for an SEO consultant should include:

    • Years in the industry
    • Marketing knowledge
    • Ability to read HTML code
    • Knowledge of the SE algorithms

    Regs,
    JohnW

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    Thanks for the responses, some interesting reading! I think I’m going to try as much as I can myself and just see how I go for now.

    As mentioned above, I don’t think our budget as a micro business will get us far with the bigger SEO companies, so might as well give it a crack myself!

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    Ben_Oz, post: 157856 wrote:
    Thanks for the responses, some interesting reading! I think I’m going to try as much as I can myself and just see how I go for now.

    As mentioned above, I don’t think our budget as a micro business will get us far with the bigger SEO companies, so might as well give it a crack myself!

    who ever you get Ben…
    get an SEO person that makes you also accountable.

    You can’t outsource your site success…. so get someone that while doing SEO is willing to coach you regarding how SEO works and most important… = how to achieve valuable traffic using different sources.

    SEO is not the only way ;)

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    Ben_Oz
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    Thanks again for the advice everybody, just to keep you updated I actually went with The Internet Ninja and very happy with the service so far!

    http://www.seopackages.com.au/

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