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    marnieb
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    And savvy, in my opinion. ;)

    Personally? I can’t stand Joomla. I’ve never worked on a Joomla site that actually WORKED properly.

    andy00, post: 117506 wrote:
    Hi Guys,

    I was making some enquiries in the last few days and i’ve been to told that i need to install Joomla for the type of website that i’ll need.
    I’m not in any way very savvy when it comes to computers but can manage most basics.
    The consultant from godaddy says that it’s a very intimidating program to work with but can be done if you read daily about it (his exact words).
    Any opinions? I don’t want to attempt something that i could potentially turn into rubbish!

    Thanks

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    MatthewKeath
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    GregW, post: 118025 wrote:
    Can someone point me in the direction of an example of wordpress site that contains inbuilt forums, stores etc?Start here – http://wordpress.org/showcase/ – some great examples of sites built on WordPress.

    GregW, post: 118025 wrote:
    Oh, and does anyone know what platform Flying Solo uses? I think its Joomla For the forums, FS uses https://www.vbulletin.com/ – not sure for the rest of the site.
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    Greg W
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    MatthewKeath, post: 118033 wrote:
    Start here – http://wordpress.org/showcase/ – some great examples of sites built on WordPress. For the forums, FS uses https://www.vbulletin.com/ – not sure for the rest of the site.

    Yeh, was more after a specific example of a wordpress site that can run everything internally, the showcase examples are blogs and portfolios as I suspected.

    Dont get me wrong I like wordpress, what I would like and probably the OP as well is the ease or wordpress with the power of Joomla/Drupal. I am just yet to see a specific wordpress theme or example that can do it?

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    MatthewKeath
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    GregW, post: 118037 wrote:
    Yeh, was more after a specific example of a wordpress site that can run everything internally, the showcase examples are blogs and portfolios as I suspected.The link provided a wide range of different sites not just blogs / folios.

    None of the following examples are ‘out of the box’ they are all highly customised, and make use of a wide range of plugin’s. There is no one super ‘theme’ that allows newbies to jump in and start creating amazing looking, functional sites, but that’s the same for all CMS’s

    Want ecommerce? I love this one: http://synchbands.com/ And this one: http://www.wilkintie.com/

    And finally a eCommerce site we did in WordPress about 6 months ago is http://azire.com.au

    A cool site that does reviews plus more is http://plazaa.de/ (sorry about the German)

    I quite like this recipe site: http://tastykitchen.com People can rate and comment of users recipes, as well as add their own.

    If you are looking for a forum example, try this: http://www.swnk.org/forums/

    Wordpress can do anything you want it to do, it all comes down to the skill and imagination of the designer.

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    Peter – FS Administrator
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    MatthewKeath, post: 118033 wrote:
    Start here – http://wordpress.org/showcase/ – some great examples of sites built on WordPress. For the forums, FS uses https://www.vbulletin.com/ – not sure for the rest of the site.
    Thanks Matt, vBulletin is correct for the forums and the rest of the FS site has grown over time but is custom built rather than a standard platform – primarily with Ruby On Rails. Wrangling the two together is not always easy! (as you’ve probably noticed a few times :))
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    MatthewKeath
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    Ah interesting…

    I suspected that the site was done on Ruby on Rails, but I thought I must have been mistaken!

    It’s certainly an interesting combo.

    FS Administrator, post: 118049 wrote:
    Thanks Matt, vBulletin is correct for the forums and the rest of the FS site has grown over time but is custom built rather than a standard platform – primarily with Ruby On Rails. Wrangling the two together is not always easy! (as you’ve probably noticed a few times :))
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    Greg W
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    MatthewKeath, post: 118047 wrote:
    The link provided a wide range of different sites not just blogs / folios.

    None of the following examples are ‘out of the box’ they are all highly customised, and make use of a wide range of plugin’s. There is no one super ‘theme’ that allows newbies to jump in and start creating amazing looking, functional sites, but that’s the same for all CMS’s

    Want ecommerce? I love this one: http://synchbands.com/ And this one: http://www.wilkintie.com/

    And finally a eCommerce site we did in WordPress about 6 months ago is http://azire.com.au

    A cool site that does reviews plus more is http://plazaa.de/ (sorry about the German)

    I quite like this recipe site: http://tastykitchen.com People can rate and comment of users recipes, as well as add their own.

    If you are looking for a forum example, try this: http://www.swnk.org/forums/

    Wordpress can do anything you want it to do, it all comes down to the skill and imagination of the designer.

    Thanks for the links will check em out.

    Are you yourself using specific wp forum and e commerce plugins? or 3rd party software thats added into the wordpress site

    eg vbulletin that runs seperate database logins etc?

    I ask this because if wp plugins are not as good then you are essentially having get a dev/designer to add this all for you so it then doesnt really matter what platform it is on as long as its the one that your designer or dev is more versed in? hope that makes sense

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    MatthewKeath
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    GregW, post: 118058 wrote:
    Thanks for the links will check em out.

    Are you yourself using specific wp forum and e commerce plugins? or 3rd party software thats added into the wordpress site

    eg vbulletin that runs seperate database logins etc?

    I ask this because if wp plugins are not as good then you are essentially having get a dev/designer to add this all for you so it then doesnt really matter what platform it is on as long as its the one that your designer or dev is more versed in? hope that makes senseYep it makes sense. The users don’t care what platform you are on – the client doesn’t care as long as they can update the site themselves and their users are happy.

    Most discussions about which is better is usually between developers or people who want to do their own site.

    As I run a design company, I am a little biased. I think all businesses sites should be built using professionals.

    If you are looking a eCommerce, these are the big three. All are WordPress plugins.

    http://cart66.com
    https://shopplugin.net/
    http://getshopped.org/

    With forums, if you need a simple forum, you can use the WordPress plugin http://bbpress.org/. It created by the same people who created WordPress.

    If you need something more robust, then I really like http://vanillaforums.com/. It’s not a WordPress plugin, and it costs (so not suitable for everyone) but it’s an awesome product. It sits inside your WordPress theme no worries, just like Flying Solo have done with Ruby and VBulletin

    Sometimes you need to mix and match your CMS and other components of your site to get the best possible outcome.

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    JohnTranter
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    MatthewKeath, post: 118074 wrote:
    If you are looking a eCommerce, these are the big three. All are WordPress plugins.

    http://cart66.com
    https://shopplugin.net/
    http://getshopped.org/

    Just to clarify, I assume you mean the big 3 wordpress ecommerce solutions.
    Otherwise I’d have to disagree ;)

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    MatthewKeath
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    JohnTranter, post: 118078 wrote:
    Just to clarify, I assume you mean the big 3 wordpress ecommerce solutions.
    Otherwise I’d have to disagree ;)Yep, those are three WordPress eCommerce plugins.
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    BrettM33
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    If you want something more than what WP offers but find Joomla too bloated and confusing then you may want to check out SilverStripe @ http://www.silverstripe.com/

    I had a play around with it some time back and I found it very user friendly.

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    Printerboy
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    General Websites – Basic Online Stores – Service Portfolios then use:

    Wordpress is a great platform to use. If you have any questions you can PM me.

    Full Ecommerce platforms use:

    Magento (Not as easy to use as WordPress)

    * You will find most of the biggger SEO companies will try and get you to transfer to Magento if you are planning on using their services. Some of their older versions use alot of data and require more than a shared hosting account but their new versions seem to have cleared this all up.

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    Tamper Evident, post: 117508 wrote:
    Hi Andy,

    I’m self-taught on a few different website tools and they are all intimidating at first.

    You will find, through Google, step by step guides on nearly everything you need to do. The hard part is putting in the hours to search, try out, reset, try out again, reset and try again.

    If you pick Joomla (which is wide spread and loved by many), stick with it. You’ll learn and become better with every thing you do.

    Good luck!

    Im with you, Youre gonna love it. Joomla is a great tool

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    andy00
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    Thanks Everyone,

    I’ve solved my problem for now by blogging away until i’m clearer on my goals and what i want to do.

    Such decisions!

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    LucasArthur
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    WOW, what an interesting chat going on above here..

    i am a total novice to varying platforms and spent months toying around, and low and behold i have fallen for WORDPRESS… just found the install easier, the extensions, the people playing with developing mods for it, ecommerce, and the list goes on…

    when i playing on Joomla, if i turned too quick i did something wrong and couldnt backtrack.. aint had this issue with WP yet… yet… or maybe its cos i educated my errors out in joomla to become better in WP.. whatever the reason, i am happy playing in WP land…

    just wanted to say thanks to all as found some nice links to learn a little more from in this article..

    and Matthew, love Azire’s site.. :)

    Cheers
    Jason

    Jason Ramage | Lucas Arthur Pty Ltd | E: [email protected]   P: 61 3 8324 0344    M: 61 412 244 888
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