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    OpusNOIR Photography
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    Johny, post: 182561 wrote:
    That’s fair enough, but is the exact type of attitude I referred to in my previous comments.

    Dealing with overseas suppliers is not rocket science.

    Thanks for the belittling tone there Johnny. I am not speaking from any “attitude” I speak from experiences – both my own and other peoples’.

    Gambling away precious funds may work for some businesses, and I’m sure the rewards can be great if your numbers come up, but I choose not to take that risk. ;)

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    Hi Shopify is a great ecommerce platform that works very well and is cost effective. One of my client uses it and it is doing really well for her. Another option is using WordPress if you are on a budget and adding the woo commerce plugin which is free I believe.

    Zoe

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    Double Post

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    Johny
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    Alister, no tone and no need to read between the lines. Please read the words for what they are, with no belittling intended.

    Your comment highlighted exactly what I had said previously, so in a way goes a little towards confirming what I said.

    You have made a statement based on a few examples of what you have heard and experienced. I disagree with that statement having been involved in dealing with OS transactions on a daily basis for over 12 years.

    Just to clarify my reasons, I will go further and say that some simple reasons that people get caught when trying to do business overseas (especially in low cost countries) are such things as:-

    1. They focus on price and think they are negotiating a bargain only to find out that they got what they paid for.

    2. They look to buy products they shouldn’t. Trying to buy branded products from China would be a good example

    3. Too much trust. If I want you to do some protography for me, I make an effort to see your portfolio? Why just accept someone overseas will do what you want without checking? Many do.

    4. Believing that buying from OS is the same as buying from the guy down the street. It isn’t.

    I will restate my previous comment. Buying from overseas is not rocket science, meaning it is not as hard as people make out. Everyone hears all the bad stories, but you seldom hear about the thousands if not millions of successful transactions that are being completed every day.

    But, it does require time and effort to identify the most suitable options. And I have never and will never suggest it is always plain sailing. But then again , I have previously, and am currently, being let down by someone I have met in person.

    Just as with everyone else in business, I am still learning new stuff about this all the time. I do however find that a lot of small business owners make the same comments you did (having the same attitude), that it is too hard for various reasons.

    Your business may not be one that has a specific need to have overseas based suppliers or customers, but for many, they should be at least considering it as a possible option.

    For many of those businesses, who are trying to compete against others as well as compete against much larger companies, I think having a business strategy of not even considering the options is foolish. I am only suggesting it should be something to be considered.

    If you look through this forum you will find plenty of examples of people looking for business coaches to help in their business, or those coaches pushing their services. For that you will pay hundreds/thousands.

    There is many a business out there that could be saving hundreds/thousands in costs by considering other options for their supply of products or services, not to mention if they were also selling their products overseas. (I wonder how many business coaches here actually make that suggestion with any of their clients when it may be of benefit for them to do so.)

    So I hope that makes it a bit more clear about my comments.

    You are entitled to your opinion, I just happen to disagree with it.

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    I wrote a blog post about how to find good designers – check it out here http://www.luchia.com.au/journals/13

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    Thanks everyone for your help. I do feel I need to use someone who is more accessible than someone O/S as I am probably going to need plenty of tech support. I’m in WA so I probably should try and use a company here so I can go in and talk face to face and establish exactly what I need. Now the next problem is finding the best one :)

    Thanks again. This website is a great help

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    Hi HSH,
    If you are entering the hamper market with little experience in online selling then expect to lose your Internet investment within 12-24 months.

    The cost of website production should be the least of your expenses and worries.

    Expect optimistically 2% of visitors to your site to buy something.

    How are you going to get them there?

    You are unlikely to attract enough traffic to your new hamper website with generic SE referrals. If someone suggests using social media as an alternative RUN AWAY. Chances are they have barely learned to spell “social” and they haven’t a clue what “media” means.

    That leaves sponsored links.

    • How much money do you propose to spend on Adwords?
    • What return do you expect to get on your Adwords spend?

    Thousands before you have tried and failed in the hamper market.

    I hate to be a “sour grapes” but better you seriously assess your plans before you commit dollars.
    Best of luck,
    JohnW

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    HSH, post: 182371 wrote:
    I’m currently looking into webpage designers and a friend recommended an Indian designer who only charges approx $500 (as opposed to $3000 here).

    My friends website looks great, however it’s not an e-commerce site and as I’m starting a hamper business I’m not sure if it’s wise to go with one of these services. I also need a logo made up which is obviously a lot cheaper too.

    Has anyone else used an overseas web service and if so what was your experience.

    Before you consider who to build the site, you do need to think through how to design your site to attract the right people. Don’t expect that this will be done successfully by a web designer. Make sure you’re clear about what makes you YOU, and how you’ll express that clearly.

    Then go find your web designer and developer.

    I see this as 3 discrete steps.

    1. who am I and why does anyone care, and how can I make them care (this is the heart of your business).
    2. how can the website design support my message and help make it clear
    3. who can code it for me.

    I help people do all 3 things, and I’ve more recently done a little web building myself for a few select clients. I do step #1, and then I pick the web designer to do #2 based on who my client is. Then I outsource #3 overseas. I see #3 as the commodity, web coding (development). #1 and #2 aren’t a commodity.

    I hope this helps a little.

    Jenny

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    HSH
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    ConceptualiseMarketing, post: 182675 wrote:
    Hi Shopify is a great ecommerce platform that works very well and is cost effective. One of my client uses it and it is doing really well for her. Another option is using WordPress if you are on a budget and adding the woo commerce plugin which is free I believe.

    Zoe

    I wish I could do it this way but I really have no idea about setting up a website

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    HSH
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    Has anyone used Wix successfully? and what are the downfalls of these sites?

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    HSH, post: 183733 wrote:
    Has anyone used Wix successfully? and what are the downfalls of these sites?

    I’ve seen people use Wix successfully (not for ecommerce). It had a bad reputation for SEO, as it is/was? Flash (SEO unfriendly technology) based. I believe this issue is now sorted, they provide a search engine friendly url to index content.

    You’ve said previously you can’t manage Shopify (or similar). If thats the case, I doubt using Wix will be much of an improvement … except there’s a free version I believe.

    If you select Wix because it’s free … you may learn a bit, but it’s definitely not going to perform like the specialist carts.

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    PAYG Marketing Managers
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    HSH, post: 183733 wrote:
    Has anyone used Wix successfully? and what are the downfalls of these sites?

    Hi HSH,

    I’ve built 4 websites using Wix, but none of them have been eCommerce sites. Here’s my 2 cents anyway though…

    Pros
    – Pretty easy to use. Takes a little bit of time to get the hang of it, but once you do it’s really easy, with no major recurring pain points.
    – Good flexibility in terms of design. Some other free website builders are easier, but the trade off is often that they have more limitations/restrictions in terms of design.
    – The cost.

    Cons
    – Not great for SEO. But if SEO is not a key part of your marketing strategy then this is not a big issue.

    Wix is a great website builder, but Shopify, Bigcommerce and Volusion all specialise in eCommerce websites so they are well worth taking a look at. Squarespace.com should also be included on the list as well if you want a classy looking site, and my SEO colleagues have told me it works really well with SEO.

    I know you said you don’t want to build it yourself. But if $500 is your budget you might be better to pay someone to build your site in one the above platforms rather that getting someone else to build it from scratch. It means you can be pretty confident that the site will end up looking how you want/expect, you can have more confidence in the level of ongoing support you’ll get. Also, if you feel up to it, you could learn the basics of how to make edits/changes so you don’t have to pay someone every time you want to change something.

    Happy to give more info if you have other questions!

    Jared
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    Personally I had some very bad experiences with my previous Indian web developer.

    Have you thought about hiring a local freelancer & contractor? It’s much cheaper than some agencies. You can always give them a call if you have any problems.

    Many of them are happy to do this kind of job for $35-45 an hour, and desperately look for more jobs to do.

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