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    Ken Wood
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    We settled on Magento early last year, because it was a promising up-and-comer that looked like it was going to be the hottest of the open source shopping carts. So far that seems to be accurate.

    We are a relatively serious user with programmers in house, so our selection criteria was weighted heavily in favour of advanced functionality, if necessary at the expense of ease of use. So our choice will not suit everyone.

    Our techs tell me that the only significant limitation they see with the free version of Magento is that it tops out at about 1,000 products – beyond that point performance takes a dive.

    We’ve now integrated Magento with:

    * an Australia Post shipping module
    * merchant interfaces for most of the local banks (I have never understood the point of using Eway, perhaps someone can explain it to me sometime?)
    * SugarCRM, and through that to
    * MYOB, including inventory management with a stock assembly process

    What is it specifically that you want your ideal shopping cart to do?

    Cheers,
    Ken

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    ray_223
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    Eli Sieradzki, post: 25029 wrote:
    ray_223: Yeah you’re probably right that there is a snowballs chance in hell to break through the crowded shopping cart market – but that hasn’t stopped me from trying hehehe :)

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    The site is
    http://www.wizifi.com

    Hi Eli,

    I have looked at your site before and I think it is an interesting idea.
    I think I said earlier in this thread it would be difficult to break into the market with a “I’m better” type of product. I think you can achieve success because your product is different.
    I haven’t used your product so can’t comment on how good it is – I would assume though that your biggest hurdle witll be marketing – trying to find the slice of the market that fits your product (and in a general sense I guess everyone with a niche product has the same challenge).

    good luck

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    JulieA
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    Julie: Looks like you’ve got loads of experience with different carts. I’d love it if you could have a look at ours and let us know how we can further improve our cart – would be great to get your feedback!

    Hi Eli, I believe I’ve visited your site before, but as it’s not an “installable” script ( which I can fully mess about with lol), I hadn’t looked any deeper. I have downloaded the trial, and will try it out and make notes of anything I think might help.

    What is it specifically that you want your ideal shopping cart to do?

    Cheers,
    Ken

    I actually have 2 different “needs” for a cart, though there is some overlap.

    1. For me, personally ( as in my body jewellery online shop), I want:
    * a logical shipping set up- based on AusPost, and a way to have the shipping cost be determined by either weight or total price…and for a customer to be able to choose products with the weight postage cost, and products with a price postage cost( all of this NOT displayed in the shop)…and for the cart to be able to do a final postage as the calculated result of the 2.

    * a way to add 2 or more attributes to a product that doesn’t generate humungous numbers of “products” to deal with them ( as is the case currently with Prestashop). Many body jewellery items have 2 or more attributes( gauge/length/diameter/material/colour/ends etc.), and this means I have to add a lot more Categories to deal with this.

    * full integration with the Joomla side of the shop. While not as high on my wishlist, it would be great to have this…to have only one login for me, and for customers, to be able to change the Joomla template and not have to fork out money for another custom Presta template( and when Presta is updated to not have to pay again for my custom template to be updated!)

    2. One of my other main sites is the Simple Living Flea Market, which was created for the benefit of others, not for my profit. Currently I use a very simple cart for the free and up to 9 Category stalls, and the option to use Presta for more cats than that.

    The simple cart is VERY basic, but is very easy for people to run and to learn.

    I would love to replace the Presta one though because it is NOT that easy/intuitive to fully setup. Currently I do the whole setup/config of each stall, and just teach people how to add their categories/products/photos etc.

    Ideally, for SLFM, I need something akin to iBoutiqueMall, and had it had a much better way of dealing with attributes, I would have saved up and bought it ( even though I would have to have a LOT of people want to “buy a stall” to even recover its cost- I believe deeply in SLFM, and would have gladly worn that cost though)

    It’s not easy to try and explain exactly what I really want…I think I’d have to sit down with someone, in front of my PC, and go through each of the carts I have on my “shortlist”, and show what I mean.

    *wanders off to check the Lotto numbers*

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    Fred Smith
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    Hi Julie, thanks for the info – it’s really useful for me to hear the pain points that people have so that I can help solve these problems.

    Ease of use is our number one priority with wizifi we’ve spent a long time trying to get the shop admin to behave the way a shop owner wants it to – not the way we think they want it to behave :)

    Your points about postage are interesting. Wizifi doesn’t have AustPost integration yet – but thats coming. It should be able to set up the rest of the shipping options the way you describe though.

    I agree that adding attributes (we call them variations) easily is really important and I think that wizifi does it the way you describe.

    The real test though is whether an actual merchant like yourself finds it easy to use and intuitive.

    Thanks for your feedback – it’s much appreciated.

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    JulieA
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    Hi Eli,
    I’ve been withoout my main PC for a week…and am working on hubby’s laptop- and only received notification about your reply to this thread, this morning.
    Anyway, I’ve just been having a bit more of a play around with your cart… I LOVE the way you add attributes/variations! Is the best ( and easiest) one I’ve ever used! It was pretty intuitive, though I’m not sure if that’d be the case for newbies…I’ve had a lot of cart experience, so it didn’t take too long to suss it all out.
    I had a quick play with the Shipping config…that one was not intuitive, and at first I couldn’t find where/how to set the actual cost of the shipping method I created. Do you have some tutes/hep docs? I couldn’t see any “help” link. With some good clear tutorials/docs setting up the cart would be a breeze for a total newbie ( this would also ease the “help! How do I ??????? requests.)
    I also couldn’t find/see any “cart” button…to see what is in the cart.
    I really didn’t like the large “Product enquiry” form when I clicked on the demo product….I feel this would be better as a link, not the actual form. Unless, of course, this being a demo, and me maybe not having all the right things configured yet/properly, the enquiry form is there to cover that fact.

    Bottom line: If I was a merchant looking for an online store, and I had no interest/experience with non-hosted carts, I would definitely put your cart at the top of my list. It has a lot of great features, features I’m envious of! :p

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    Fred Smith
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    Hi Julie,
    Thank you so much for your kind words! We really are putting a great deal of effort into finding out how store owners would like a cart to behave and it’s great to hear that we’ve had some success in this area :)

    Thanks for your feedback with regard to the shipping rates. I agree that some quick tutorials could help make this process easier. We’re in the process of writing documentation for the system now.

    Great point about the feedback form. I’ve added a change to our development road-map, so that this will show up as a link to a form instead of the form itself. This update should be rolled out later this week.

    JulieA, post: 25704 wrote:
    Bottom line: If I was a merchant looking for an online store, and I had no interest/experience with non-hosted carts, I would definitely put your cart at the top of my list. It has a lot of great features, features I’m envious of! :p

    Very much appreciated – it’s comments like this that make us even more enthusiastic about making merchant’s lives easier :)

    Thanks for helping us build a better cart Julie.

    Kind Regards,
    Eli

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