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    Zava Design
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    Aidan, post: 136981 wrote:
    A simple check on the support and agreement each participant has had from others in this thread or indeed even a count of the ‘likes’ each participant has received is rather telling…
    So the highest rating TV shows are the best TV shows??

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    Then we’ll see if there’s any balance on this forum with regards to SEO comments and who makes them.

    Guess my curiousity in this area here was answered.

    Time to end thread, seems everyone’s questions have been answered.

    At present, I can’t see how a SE can use signals from social media as a major determinent of a page’s ranking.

    Apologies JohnW, you started to raise some valid and constructive points/arguments

    that would have been worth continuing with, but not here. There’s actually a few logical equations that would make sense of what could be possible, but some other time perhaps/ ;)

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    seocourse
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    Zava Design, post: 137060 wrote:
    So the highest rating TV shows are the best TV shows??

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    Guess my curiousity in this area here was answered.

    Time to end thread, seems everyone’s questions have been answered. Apologies JohnW, you started to raise some valid and constructive points/arguments that would have been worth continuing with, but not here. Some other time perhaps/ ;)

    How was Machu Picchu?

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    NickMorris
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    Zava Design, post: 136932 wrote:
    Tell you what, I’ll be anally watching that you clarify every single comment you make in every single post on whether it’s “scientific” fact or a viewpoint you hold, fair enough?

    Maybe its just me being nitpicky but I tend to think that the distinction between something Google has stated and your opinion is pretty important. If you find it hard to make that distinction for anything I say then by all means pull me up on it.

    In general though, just take everything I say as my opinion unless I state otherwise.

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    NickMorris
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    This thread has take some twists and turns and I seem to have lost my way somewhat… anyway…

    How sophisticated are Google’s content analysis algorithms? Can they really judge content quality (effectively) without relying on links and/or social shares? (by the way I’m not talking about content aesthetics ie. how easy it is to read or whether it has nice pictures, but more the quality of the actual information or substance in the content).

    John, you raise an interesting point in talking about social shares as low quality links. I tend to think of social shares as separate from links from websites, which I think is fair but then I thought what about links from forums? A forum is certainly social and its also certainly a website so which bucket would I put it in.

    I think social shares have much the same pros and cons as links (from websites) as indicators of quality content, the main advantage being that more people have social profiles than websites so that means more data. Perhaps the ability to match specific experts in a field to content they share and, hence, approve of… but a similar think could be said about blogs/websites of well known individuals. Is there anything else that social can give but websites can’t?

    Another thing we shouldn’t forget is that even leaving search engines aside, social shares are definitely something you should be trying to get for your content so don’t let the doubts about whether they are being used as a ranking signal dissuade you.

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    seocourse
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    Nick this is FlyingSolo
    not SEOMoz private membership area or a SEO mastermind groupt

    To a certain point these threads bout SEO always loose track, specially when people start with talking and writing things like

    • Links don’t work
    • Google is evil
    • SEO is dead
    • The SEO industry is in trouble (my favorite one so far!)
    • I know more because I have tons of experiments :rolleyes:

    So my suggestion is:

    Let them talk.
    Let them rant….

    It’s funny how usually the people that do this for a living, every single day, you, Aidan, John, Matthew, Nick (the other Nick)… we seem to agree. (sometimes) ;)

    ….and we also seem to spend more time working and moving ahead, rather than complaining about how unfair life, Google or an algorithm is…

    By the way, love your latest podcast mate <--- that is Awesome content by the way.

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    NathanB
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    seocourse, post: 137148 wrote:
    • Links don’t work
    • Google is evil
    • SEO is dead
    • The SEO industry is in trouble (my favorite one so far!)
    • I know more because I have tons of experiments :rolleyes:

    You forgot to add that when Flash makes a come back, SEO will no longer be as critical.

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    Cesar
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    Quite the opposite Gab. These threads educate individuals about pitfalls and misconceptions of the SEO industry. Misconceptions created by the SEO industry itself, like a “Chinese Whisper”, hence confusing the general public.

    The reality is, with all the recent dramatic changes to the SEO industry, it’s made a lot of their arsenal or tools of the trade, redundant. That includes bad and so-called good linking strategies which were used for one purpose only, to manipulate the search engines.

    By having these threads, it educates individuals what is acceptable and what is condoned when acquiring the services of an SEO consultant, preferably called Internet Marketer or Search Engine Marketer.

    The positive results from all these changes, is that it shook up the SEO industry to the core and put them on notice to learn to be Marketers in lieu of Manipulators. A positive result all-round for the Internet community, I’m sure you will agree.

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