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    Stuart B
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    Lol I like this “I demand you prove your statements” game you seem to be playing. But aside from it being common sense, the responses from people on this forum illustrate the point fairly well.

    It would probably be more fun for you to try and find some stats which prove that a free email address is more effective at creating trust and attracting clients. Now there’s a challenge.

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    Stuart B, post: 223619, member: 10757 wrote:
    Lol I like this “I demand you prove your statements” game you seem to be playing. But aside from it being common sense, the responses from people on this forum illustrate the point fairly well.

    Stuart I don’t see a demand, just a request. You are the one making the claim that it is better. I am just asking the question.

    Stuart B, post: 223619, member: 10757 wrote:
    It would probably be more fun for you to try and find some stats which prove that a free email address is more effective at creating trust and attracting clients. Now there’s a challenge.

    No challenge really I just looked up the link already within the thread, which appears to show generics are used and that a business can be built on them.

    http://blog.tradesecrets.guru/business_advice/generic-emails-bad-for-business/

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    Stuart B
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    [USER=53375]@bb1[/USER] sorry mate I have been just having a laugh thinking this was banter going back and forth but now I realise you’re actually serious about the arguments you’re putting forward. Funny how tone of voice sometimes gets lost in forums…

    So just going back through your previous post I think you’ve misunderstood what my position was…

    I’m definitely not saying you can’t be productive, build a business etc using a generic email address, just that it will be faster, more effective for your business in a wide variety of ways if you have a custom one.

    I’m not going to go out and find some stats to back it up because to be honest many of the posts in this thread make pretty logical sense and I contribute to this forum for fun, not so I can write research papers with fully documented facts and figures etc (that’s not fun). But if I did go looking it would not be difficult to prove the argument at all.

    The way I think of it is like this. If 2 people are in a triathlon they both have to complete the bike segment of the competition. You could use any bike you wanted. If you want to use a mountain bike because you’ve got one in the shed, cool. But there’s a reason why the people who perform the best in that race use bikes which are proven to give them an edge over the competition.

    Now I’m not passing judgement on people who use generic emails or saying they’re bad people or anything, but I’m interested in building my business, and my clients’ business as rapidly as possible so when one of the fundamental assets of a business (email) can be easily tweaked to give a 1% increase, that 1% change in direction will result in that business being in an entirely different position after several years (all things being equal).

    I hope that clarifies things a bit for you mate.

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    [USER=10757]@Stuart B[/USER]

    This is pretty interesting… something that maybe people don’t consider when advocating using a “free” email or website account is that they’re actually providing advertising for those “free” websites or email account providers.

    Every gmail account is an ad for google, and every facebook page is an ad for facebook.

    So, I actually can’t think of a single reason that is valid to not have a custom email or website… not to mention the hidden costs of using gmail or facebook (your information and attention – and the ability to sell you stuff based on that info).

    Whether it’s easier to set up a free versus “custom” email is entirely on the services provider. Each has a different process for setup and whatnot.

    As to cost, well, hidden costs are still costs.

    Julian

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    A lot of the time our clients retain their web or ISP based email addresses because they just find it all too confusing to make a move. In some cases they may even have had really bad experiences with moving and given up. We hit this every time a new client gets a new website built and are told, “sorry: we don’t host email services”.

    I am just migrating our company to Google Apps email services which is great! It means being able to use the Google webmail app to access @ourdomain email boxes.

    Perry Bernard.

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    Stuart B
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    Perry Bernard, post: 223940, member: 65780 wrote:
    A lot of the time our clients retain their web or ISP based email addresses because they just find it all too confusing to make a move. In some cases they may even have had really bad experiences with moving and given up. We hit this every time a new client gets a new website built and are told, “sorry: we don’t host email services”.

    I am just migrating our company to Google Apps email services which is great! It means being able to use the Google webmail app to access @ourdomain email boxes.

    Perry Bernard.

    For me that’s the gold standard because (as you mentioned) you get the power of Google’s email facilities with your own branding AND you’re insulated against any changed with your website/hosting services. So if you change your web hosting company then your email continues uninterrupted.

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    Well that’s interesting.

    i understand the fact that it doesn’t look professional, but can your host give you the same level of security GMAIL & HOTMAIL can? do you know how many times i got got emails from google telling me my account was accessed from a country i never been at?
    do you know how many phishing scams i get in my pro mail? about 20 every day!!!

    If you have to be pro – why not pay for it? you can get a pro account with google/Microsoft – have a business name and get the security level needed in today’s business world.

    Do you know that cyber thefts is going to grow exponentially in the years to come? do you know what will happen to you if you lose your identity?

    web hosting mail is not as safe, and they will never have the resources Hotmail & Gmail have!!!

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    Stuart B
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    Those are valid questions which is why Google Apps hosted email is the best option because you get the best of both worlds.

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    Most definitely I think google apps is the way to go all the benefits of gmail, but your own domain name, plus you miss out on horror shows when email servers go down or other nasties pop up – tends to run a lot more smoothly. Even if the client loses internet / gets robbed they can still access their email easily through the gmail interface…

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    I use google apps too. I’m stuck indoors all the time with no windows and the “bus stop” theme lets me know if it’s raining outside. That’s my only connection to the outdoors! A bit off topic..

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    Quinzhee, post: 223967, member: 73034 wrote:
    I use google apps too. I’m stuck indoors all the time with no windows and the “bus stop” theme lets me know if it’s raining outside. That’s my only connection to the outdoors! A bit off topic..
    lol
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    [USER=72608]@petpoocontrol[/USER] you have everything you need apart from registering a domain. I’m sure an IT person on here will jump in quick to assist

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    Quinzhee
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    You need to register a domain name (businessname.com.au) first. I bought mine from ventraip and costs around $20 for 2 years.

    Then you can link the domain name to google apps to use the email address like a normal gmail account.

    It’s a bit technical but Google has pretty good instructions.

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    For a large company with everything run in-house, it is easy. My hosting lists 99% up-time, which I’m sure it’s accurate. I also had a period in the past year where they hadn’t credited the account with a payment & closed the site for a week.
    Using site based email was a problem & that all disappeared then. Any emails coming through the generic I still received.

    I had looked into Gmail’s business email offering, but that appears to have to be forwarded email from the hosted site – which defeats what I wanted it for. Hopefully I am wrong on that & can use it, but it doesn’t appear so & they have not answered info requests.

    The ones here selling sites I fully expect to be pushing the ‘get a domain’ line – they have a vested interest.

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    HBTRADE, post: 224070, member: 24247 wrote:
    For a large company with everything run in-house, it is easy. My hosting lists 99% up-time, which I’m sure it’s accurate. I also had a period in the past year where they hadn’t credited the account with a payment & closed the site for a week.
    Using site based email was a problem & that all disappeared then. Any emails coming through the generic I still received.

    I had looked into Gmail’s business email offering, but that appears to have to be forwarded email from the hosted site – which defeats what I wanted it for. Hopefully I am wrong on that & can use it, but it doesn’t appear so & they have not answered info requests.

    The ones here selling sites I fully expect to be pushing the ‘get a domain’ line – they have a vested interest.

    I don’t know about a large company :P. Each Google apps user costs $5/month, which works for me as I am the only user.

    It isn’t email forwarding. The instructions from Google does say “redirect your organization’s email to Gmail.” from http://setup.googleapps.com/Home/small-business. I assume that is what confused you?

    I don’t know how you can get an email address, “joe@joebloggs.com.au“, without owning the domain name “joebloggs.com.au”.

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