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    DreamscanbeVisions
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    People are easily making millions by learning wordpress & internet marketing & we can see it everywhere on the internet. It’s just ads, ads, ads!

    Now I’m 19 years old studying marketing at Newcastle & have found that the normal 9-5 job is not the way to go (obviously).

    I’ve done a heap of research into internet marketing & am currently learning about WordPress.

    I’m really curious as to whether or not there are people on this forum who are using wordpress for affiliate marketing.

    It would be extremely appreciated if people using wordpress (if any here) could outline the greatest challenges of affiliate marketing with wordpress.

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    Hi there!

    I tried an affiliate marketing site last year… I suppose the most important thing to recognise is that it takes time, loads of time & effort to build enough traffic to make it viable.

    What is your experience with sitebuilding and seo?

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    What makes you say that the normal 9-5 job is obviously not the way to go?

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    If I am correct in thinking that you are talking about affiliate marketing then you are mistaken in that it is easy to make millions. Those who make the most at this are the company whose products you are selling for them on a commision basis.

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    My experience with SEO is not much.. I’ve read alot on what search engines take into account & what they don’t really care about.

    I own about 15 domains each of which are the .au & the keywords are searched by aussies from: 10 000 to 74 000 times a month. (Used google’s sk tool for this)

    I’ve looked at the competition & I’ve used alexa to figure out site rankings & found that it shouldn’t be too hard to rank on google’s first page especially if I get people to stay on the site, for the keyword I’m targetting.

    Basically I’m going to just start with one keyword & build a forum. I do have unique expertise in the field of the “keyword” hence the information on the site will be really good in keeping people on the site for 5-10mins. I’ve got 2 sites not using wordpress that have verry bad SEO but rank well on google in Australia. I used these sites to research with google analytics what people like & don’t like.

    Now about affiliates obviously I’m looking at how the advertisers would benefit & since the keyword I’m targetting is one which branches off into many products I can have these companies advertise on a long-term basis since the CTR would be high hence either boosting their backlink strength or getting them conversions.


    @Shane
    my experience is pretty low but my determination is high, I’m just trying to build a solid foundation & really learn everything I can about the challenges I’ll face & how I can surpass them. Any tips or suggestions would really be appreciated especially since you are in marketing.


    @Bluepenguin
    I didn’t mean to offend anyone I’m stating what I want for myself. I want to be there for my wife, kids & spend my time genuinely helping people. I got some pretty cool plans on how I want to help society as a whole but obviously starting in the communities. One of my long-term goals is to own huge pieces of land with fruits & vegetables being grown. Then get all these foods to people of low socio-economic status free of charge at a regular basis. Then obviously expand to everyone, etc but right now I’m focused on the steps I need to take to do that & working for someone else will not make my dream a vision.


    @Bizzy
    I’m currently selling products & advertising on a site that brings in 30% of my traffic. I pay them $75 a month & they have about 20 other advertisers.

    Let’s say I have one of these sites wif 5 advertisers paying 100/month that’s an easy $500 a month, basically maintenance is just involved. Then having this type of site made on a weekly basis specialising in one keyword it shouldn’t be hard to make 6 figures after a couple of years..

    By the way once the sites I build have people advertising I’d soon stop it & just sell the same products they were selling for better value..

    I own a brand name & just one product at the moment. I make decent amount of sales so I know what needs to be done. The owner of Panasonic said always charge a fair price. As an example looking in the beauty industry you can see topical cleansers costing around $20 just because of percieved value. Not in that niche but in another niche I’m going to sell at percieved value just so people don’t think it’s junk thenn bring the price down, destroying the market. Economist say jobs will be lost etc but many of these jobs could’ve been handled by robots anyway while people are out there enjoying life..

    A bit side tracked……

    I’d just love some feedback on any challenges I’d face & how I can surpass them. Like maybe the 5 hardest decisions you had to made, 5 toughest challenges…. & how you conquered it.

    Thanks for the responses!

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    DreamscanbeVisions, post: 71688 wrote:
    I’d just love some feedback on any challenges I’d face & how I can surpass them. Like maybe the 5 hardest decisions you had to made, 5 toughest challenges…. & how you conquered it.

    Thanks for the responses!

    I make a living from what you call “internet marketing”

    I own over 400 websites… when I started I though the same thing.

    If one site makes me $50 per month… yeah! build 100 and then = $5000 per month.

    The problem is… internet marketing is not a desert… it’s a fast river.. and what works for you today it will stop working in 2 months time, 5 months time…

    In 2007 Ebay used to pay $50 per new user you refer to them. Once the user created a new ebay account —> $$$$$ you used to get $50 bucks via Ebay Partner network… so me and other 5000 internet marketers we build thousands of sites for Ebay purpose.

    One day, Mr Ebay woke up and change the rules and puff!!!! all the ebay sites where simply useless…

    Also there is the magic dream of :

    GOOGLE KEYWORD TOOL

    You look at a keyword, you look at the number of searches, you get excited, you build a site… you get the traffic and mmm wait… traffic is not even close to google keyword tool numbers? ;)

    Lol. welcome to reality.

    Making a living from affiliate systems it’s possible… but you need to go where the money is… and where the money is, then you have though competitors.

    Personally I realized that the amount of time that takes me to promote a site about “Gladiator shoes” or “Washing Machines” is better to invest in increasing my business or producing my own product.

    Example is: I created my own product instead of promoting other’s peoples product (SEOconsultantsecrets.com) and I sold over 130 copies in 2 months… much better investing that promoting other people’s product.

    I hope you know why I mean… ;)

    Just my 2 cents

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    I think firstly you need to take a breath and put down the Red Bull ;)

    I really admire your enthusiasm, and don’t let anyone take it away. The one thing you will need to learn is focus – this will be your biggest downfall. In the last couple of posts, you have talked about veggie patches, affiliate marketing, creating your own websites, creating your own products, people losing jobs…… None of this will be a reality unless you focus and formulate a step by step plan of how to make it work.

    You are more than welcome to head down to your library or local books store or kindle or whatever and pickup the 50 or so books on the shelf about the get rich quick scheme, but the only person making the money is the one who wrote it :)

    We are certainly in an era of opportunity, and you sound like you are doing your homework, which is a great start – but just remember there are probably another million Mark Zuckerburgs out there working on the same thing.

    as I said, your enthusiasm is admirable, but you may get better results if you channel them all into a singular venture, put the effort it have patience and work your way through from there.

    Best of luck

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    This is an interesting thread! I admire your ambition and wish you luck. I am not interested in affiliate marketing but I run a web design business that does SEO so I’ve started delving into the world of internet marketing in the last few weeks and I’m really loving it. Reading and watching loads of stuff from Lee Macintyre of http://www.getmoremomentum.com/ and http://challenge.co which is just awesome and I’m learning loads that I can apply to my business.

    I’m not about to get into affiliate marketing though. It kind of smells like a pyramid scheme where the guys at the top are killing it and convince everyone else that they can to if they start doing it. But really if they start doing it all that will achieve is the guys at the top will make more cash.

    As for WordPress I use it heaps in my business, mostly for small business sites but it’s just one of many tools to use. If you are looking at hosted platforms checkout the challenge link above lessons 60 or so from memory onwards go through a whole bunch of tools that are similar. If you are looking to build a website to host on your own domain and it’s a simple one then WordPress is probably the best choice (out of a lot of other choices) but it’s not going to make you rich. You could just build a static site using DreamWeaver and you’d probably get the same result – there is nothing magical about it.

    Anyway good luck, some people do get rich of this sort of thing and it could be you?!!??

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    Sorry but WordPress never made anyone a cent! and I would say that the number one affiliate marketing product is e-books and online courses about affiliate marketing..

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    AdServe, post: 71914 wrote:
    Sorry but WordPress never made anyone a cent!

    Well in terms of premium themes, I would say WordPress has made a lot of people a lot of money! Terms of affiliate marketing, WordPress is just a tool.

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    DreamscanbeVisions
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    Creating websites & optimizing them has never been so easy with wordpress + it’s free.

    I’ve been playing around with it for about a week now & must say, those who comment on wordpress being just a tool are 100% correct but those outside of this board who say it is inferior compared to professional web designers…. ;)

    My point: Anyone can make almost any type of site & compete with top ranking sites with something that’s free & user friendly once you learn it :)

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    DreamscanbeVisions, post: 72621 wrote:
    My point: Anyone can make almost any type of site & compete with top ranking sites with something that’s free & user friendly once you learn it :)

    The point is: it doesn’t matter if you learn WordPress to build websites or just plain vanilla html/css. You still only get a website; as has been said before:

    websitedesigner wrote:
    You could just build a static site using DreamWeaver and you’d probably get the same result – there is nothing magical about it.

    The only thing WordPress does in my eyes is making the web designer a bit more independet from the web developer. But learning WordPress doesn’t save you from learning general design principles, webdesign (if only to choose a theme that suits your purpose–which shouldn’t be “looking good” but “speaking to your target market”!), interaction design, information architecture, marketing strategies, all about your target market and copywriting if you want to build a website that actually sells. If you see WordPress as replacement for all of the above you’re probably running into a dead end. I really don’t want to disencourage you, but please don’t underestimate what is needed to build a good website.

    Cheers,
    Tina

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    DreamscanbeVisions
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    Tina, I’m not going to disagree with what you’ve stated about developing the site into one that sells. This is probably more important than the design itself.

    As a tool for web designing I believe wordpress can do anything. As far as developing the site for it’s purpose then yes marketing, etc need to be added in.

    Can anyone provide some info on using web developing techniques to increase a sale ?

    For e.g call to action, big buy now button, trustworthy..

    Is it easier to just copy what the best sites do & add your own unique twist to it ?

    For e.g one of my sites (under construction):
    http://seabuckthornoil.com.au/natural-skin-care

    is going to be selling just one product..

    I’ve been looking at
    http://www.lixirproducts.com.au

    To get ideas, does anyone have anything they can share about making my site better than the Lixir one in regards to making a sale ?

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    DreamscanbeVisions, post: 72768 wrote:
    Tina, I’m not going to disagree with what you’ve stated about developing the site into one that sells. This is probably more important than the design itself.

    As a tool for web designing I believe wordpress can do anything. As far as developing the site for it’s purpose then yes marketing, etc need to be added in.

    Can anyone provide some info on using web developing techniques to increase a sale ?

    For e.g call to action, big buy now button, trustworthy..

    Is it easier to just copy what the best sites do & add your own unique twist to it ?

    For e.g one of my sites (under construction):
    http://seabuckthornoil.com.au/natural-skin-care

    is going to be selling just one product..

    I’ve been looking at
    http://www.lixirproducts.com.au

    To get ideas, does anyone have anything they can share about making my site better than the Lixir one in regards to making a sale ?

    Hi your site looks great and yes wordpress does make it very strait forward for people to add lots of content to there sites getting deep long tail google traffic. People used to buy a 5 page site package from a designer and then leave it as is so if people use wordpress to constantly update there site it helps.

    I would suggest that you put a video testimonial on your site, one with an Aussie presenter and.. of course I can help with this :) Im just getting into video production but have ben doing motion graphics for a long time http://www.videoeffects.com.au click watch in HD(I didnt work out how to do HD playlists yet) I am eager to get some more work to show people so I could give you a great price.

    Another thing with your competitor site, it gives them credibility having the same background on the package as on the website, makes it look like the official site or something. Put that same image as on your package as your background making it look good in some way.

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    Hi, I use WordPress and am really happy with it. I will admit I have other programs to supply the Forum and E-commerce function so I have been able to keep my WordPress simple and clean. I found it easy to use and there are so many widgets you could never use them all.

    The main reason I went with WordPress was that I could try it before I bought it so was comfortable with it.

    I have paid for some work on my WordPress theme so someone is making money…:p

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