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    Bek&Kyle
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    Hi everyone

    This is our first post, we’re looking for as much information you can throw at us! We are a couple in our 20’s with dreams of opening and running our own cafe.
    At the moment in terms of planning and where we are at, it’s all just research at this stage.

    We understand that an idea like this won’t be easy and we are up for the hard work. We also aren’t looking for a quick get rich project but more of a lifestyle.

    My partner is a qualified chef and has worked as a head chef in cafés in Melbourne and is currently a chef in Sydney. He has an idea of the concept,menu and market he would want our business to have. I have worked in the hospitality industry and before getting anything started I wish to do some business management courses and attend seminars to further my knowledge and skills.

    At this stage we are looking specifically for more information on start up costs. What costs are involved and what is needed to successfully start up your own small business.

    I’m looking forward to everyone’s advice,

    Thanks, Bek

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    MissSassy
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    How long is a piece of string – Costs vary so much and there are so many options available.

    Keep up your research and look into various options, which may be small or large, established etc.

    Do some council area research as a start and see what amount of rent you will have to pay. Look also to the council area demographics as this will give you an idea on the need for a cafe, based on who is nearby.

    Fixtures, Fittings, insurance, licenses, etc will all add up substantially.

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    Anonymous
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    G’day Bek, and welcome :)

    I think you’ll find that set-up costs will be highly dependent on the premises you’re looking at. For example, there’ll be vast differences in cost between taking over premises that are already set up as a cafe, versus setting one up from scratch – but for that privilege, you may need to purchase an existing business.

    You may need to do your planning based on several different scenarios, and as the plans get more detailed, the right way to go may end up presenting itself based on what the numbers are telling you.

    Good luck with it all – we will follow your journey with interest,
    Jayne

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    Tony Manto
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    Hi Bek, why don’t you look into purchasing an existing cafe. They will have to show you a list of assets, cost, turnover and so on. This will give you a good in site to what expenses and turnover is required.

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    Bizbo
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    Hey Bek!!

    Congrats for taking the first steps towards opening a cafe. It is definitely an exciting time and its great that you’ve noted its not a get rich quick scenario as you’ve put it.

    When we started our first cafe/s we actually bought somewhat run down existing ones and did a bit of a revamp, rebranding and then built the business up through a quality menu, great coffee and brilliant customer service.

    Sounds like you’re heading in the right direction. Might be a bit biased but check out some existing cafes that are for sale as this may be your best bet!

    If you have any questions or want some more information don’t hesitate to get in touch or check out our blog that has some great pieces from industry experts on these kinds of questions!

    All the best!

    Garth

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    pollypolkadot
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    Hi there!

    If you are looking for courses to do (and are in Sydney), I highly recommend this one: http://www.sydneycommunitycollege.com.au/course/B2.Bus. I attended it at the start of the year and it was super informative on all aspects of opening a cafe or restaurant. I am planning to open a restaurant in about five years, after the business I am currently setting up is established, and though I can’t use all of the information I got right away it was still very useful to help me plan for the future.

    The Profitable Hospitality website, run by the guy who does the course, is quite informative as well, I suggest checking it out. http://www.profitablehospitality.com/public/main.cfm

    Good luck with your cafe venture!

    Polly

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    elig84
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    Hi Bek

    One essential element that is often left out is obtaining planning approval. There are costs associated with getting plans professionally drawn for the new shop fitout, town planner’s fees, council application fees and any other required consultants.

    Bear in mind, not every new cafe requires approval, but you need to check this. For example, if you require Council approval, you will need to lodge a Development Application. This may take a few months to get approved. So you need to factor in things like signing a lease with an option for a lease-free period until you obtain approval.

    There is also a fast-track approval process called Complying Development. I try encourage my clients to apply for this option as the approval turnaround is around 2-3 weeks.

    I’m happy to assist you with obtaining approval as this is something I specialise in. Feel free to email me at [email protected]

    Good luck!

    Eli Gescheit
    Director
    Navon Retail
    http://www.navonretail.com.au

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